[QUOTE=Broz;743878]I realize none of us have had one of these in our hands yet. But from what you see and from what you have read what would you change about this scope? Please lets leave price out of the opinions. I feel they took it pretty easy on us with the slated MSRP of around $2350.
Here is a link for those that have not read about it yet.
ATACR | Nightforce Optics, Inc.
I look at the ATACR as a serious boost for us ELR shooters. This was surely what Nightforce was targeting with this scope. I have had a few conversations with Shawn Carlock and we both share the excitement of a little more top end power, ED glass, and the 120 MOA of elevation. But!!!! Why the thicker reticle?? That is surely not what we as ELR shooters will prefer. Four inches plus of target cover at 3000 yards is not my idea of a precise hold.
I just had a very informative conversation with Mark Benelli at Nightforce about the new ATACR and BEAST. The first thing I wanted to discuss was the possibility of a thinner reticle choice for the ATACR in MOA. The answer, it is not slated at this time, but Mark being an ELR shooter welcomed my views, and agreed, that a thinner reticle would be more desirable for ELR. He also shared his experience from using the MOAR reticle this past season. He says it may not be as bad as I expect, but did admit in a recent match he could not center the reticle on a 1" orange dot at 400 yards. It simply blocked the dot out. He also stated he was going to go back to the RP-R1 to see for sure if the R1 was indeed better for his needs. We also talked about the glass the new line will be sporting. In an independent study the BEAST was tested by a independent German firm and the BEAST was given a 10 for clarity and brightness and definition. The S&B PM2 in 25x was given an 8+. So this glass will be something to behold I would say. The ATACR does not sport this same glass as the BEAST, but does have new ED glass. Mark says although he has never seen fault with the glass we know so well in the NXS ( I agree), the ED glass in the ATACR is very noticeably better especially for definition and depth perception.
Sorting these high end optics out is such a pain. To bad there isn't a place to go that has them all side by side for comparison. To celebrate my son's college graduation I was going to treat myself to the S&B PM2. He let me know about this double major thing so next year perhaps. Anyway, back to topic. The S&B looks like the scope the BEAST is competing with. The price I saw elswhere was $3298-if that is so would it change your thinking any Broz?