I realize none of us have had one of these in our hands yet. But from what you see and from what you have read what would you change about this scope? Please lets leave price out of the opinions. I feel they took it pretty easy on us with the slated MSRP of around $2350.
Here is a link for those that have not read about it yet.
ATACR | Nightforce Optics, Inc.
I look at the ATACR as a serious boost for us ELR shooters. This was surely what Nightforce was targeting with this scope. I have had a few conversations with Shawn Carlock and we both share the excitement of a little more top end power, ED glass, and the 120 MOA of elevation. But!!!! Why the thicker reticle?? That is surely not what we as ELR shooters will prefer. Four inches plus of target cover at 3000 yards is not my idea of a precise hold.
I just had a very informative conversation with Mark Benelli at Nightforce about the new ATACR and BEAST. The first thing I wanted to discuss was the possibility of a thinner reticle choice for the ATACR in MOA. The answer, it is not slated at this time, but Mark being an ELR shooter welcomed my views, and agreed, that a thinner reticle would be more desirable for ELR. He also shared his experience from using the MOAR reticle this past season. He says it may not be as bad as I expect, but did admit in a recent match he could not center the reticle on a 1" orange dot at 400 yards. It simply blocked the dot out. He also stated he was going to go back to the RP-R1 to see for sure if the R1 was indeed better for his needs. We also talked about the glass the new line will be sporting. In an independent study the BEAST was tested by a independent German firm and the BEAST was given a 10 for clarity and brightness and definition. The S&B PM2 in 25x was given an 8+. So this glass will be something to behold I would say. The ATACR does not sport this same glass as the BEAST, but does have new ED glass. Mark says although he has never seen fault with the glass we know so well in the NXS ( I agree), the ED glass in the ATACR is very noticeably better especially for definition and depth perception. Also the ED glass gave a better image all the way across the field of view even at the edges. I hang on to hope that added definition will make up for some of the target picture we loose with the thicker cross hairs, and will aid in precise hold at ELR. We talked about a new MOAR option. The MOAR "Thin" with .062 sub-tensions. Although this is not slated at this time I got the feeling if enough of us requested it, it could one day become a reality. That would be the icing on the cake for the new ATACR as far as I can tell form this point anyway.
My main interest was in the ATACR since I only want Second Focal Plane , so I asked about the added 20 moa of elevation. He told me they were actually getting a little over 120 in most units. But the advertised and target adjustment was 120 moa. I found that very good news.
Mark was very helpful and we talked for 35 minutes. Never once did I feel I didn't have his full attention and he was in no hurry to get me off the phone even though I did whine a bit about the reticle choice for the ATACR. He represents his company well and a great company it is that has time and interest in every customers questions and requests.
As indicated in another thread I have on here.
Is The 5.5~22 Nightforce my only choice?
This was my wish list.
* Minimum top end power of 22 x but a little more would be nice.
* Sub-tensions to be no wider that .070 ( Like the NP-R1 thinner would be fine)
* Second Focal Plane only (tried the FFP and hated them)
* .25 MOA Turrets and MOA Reticle (MOA only for me)
* Minimum of 100 MOA total elevation ( more would be great!!)
* A zero stop of some sort is something I really like.
* Price not to exceed $2500 or so.
As seen above, they pretty much gave me all I asked for. But, I still feel the need to whine a little about the sub-tension thickness.
I have spoken for one of the current ATACR's as soon as we can get one, and will be waiting to replace either the scope (with another ATACR) or swap out the reticle for a thinner option if ever offered.