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Unread 12-29-2013, 10:41 AM
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Re: 300 norma or 338 edge custom rifle build

I was in the same boat as you.

My first choice is 338 Lapua Mag Imp. however you will need a reamer to drill a bit further if you plan to use 300gr Berger.
That's when 300 or 338 Norma Mag comes in. The brass is a bit shorter and you can extend the bullet further. You can use in magnum action however the bolt head has to be .588" compared to 338Edge or RUM; .535"

Need more HP in Norma Mag?
300 HULK (shoulder lift and less taper)
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    Re: 300 norma or 338 edge custom rifle build

    I have a 300 Norma with a 28" barrel. It shoots 208 A-MAX's at 3108 fps. I would think it would do the same with the 210 NLRAB. I used a REM 700 action. The good thing about the Normas is no worries about OAL or mag length issues. For a hunting rifle I would go with a 26" bbl in 300 and 25" with a 338.
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    Re: 300 norma or 338 edge custom rifle build

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    If past a mile 338, the energy the 300 grain bullets carry is not recoverable from a 30.


    According to some on here, if you just add a wyatts box to your 7, it out to out pound a 30 all day. Boy was I sorry I searched for 7 rem mag data!

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    What does he need a wyatts box for? I have not seen the seven energy wise beat on the big 300's. And there is something about the .30 cals on up they hit hard all the time. I will say the 7 are more pleasant to shoot and have high b.c bullets. But just because gunwerks compares the 168 berger to the 30-378 with a 165 partition does not mean anything to me. If a guy compares the 7mm with a 180 hybrid at .675 bc and the 215 berger with a .696 and both doing 3000fps with same conditions things change. Then you can take the winner of the two and up the velocity and compare to the 338 300 grain berger at 2850 fps and decide what you want or need. I would say there are a boat load of calibers that work to the 1000 yards but after that with elk in the equation the 338 wins all day long and only gets better when you get further out.
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    I would get the 300 Norma. Shoot the 208 to 240 grain bullets. The reason is faster flatter and more margin for error on distances your shooting. I do not have a 338 edge but I do have a 338 Laupa Improved and a 300 Norma improved. I have taken elk with the 338 Laupa at 1103 yards and taken Elk with the 300 Norma 1342 yards 1246 1090 with no issues. The 300 Norma is flatter and faster all the way to a mile with plenty of energy to kill. If you only want to shoot 1000yd get the Norma less recoil you can spot your hits. Huge range of bullets to choose from. If you ever wanted to shoot varmints you have bullet choices from 100 grains all the way to 240
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    What does he need a wyatts box for? I have not seen the seven energy wise beat on the big 300's. And there is something about the .30 cals on up they hit hard all the time. I will say the 7 are more pleasant to shoot and have high b.c bullets. But just because gunwerks compares the 168 berger to the 30-378 with a 165 partition does not mean anything to me. If a guy compares the 7mm with a 180 hybrid at .675 bc and the 215 berger with a .696 and both doing 3000fps with same conditions things change. Then you can take the winner of the two and up the velocity and compare to the 338 300 grain berger at 2850 fps and decide what you want or need. I would say there are a boat load of calibers that work to the 1000 yards but after that with elk in the equation the 338 wins all day long and only gets better when you get further out.
    I'm right with you. I was poking fun about a thread I happened to run upon.

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    I'm right with you. I was poking fun about a thread I happened to run upon.

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    Good deal. I just could not figure that out. That is good fun right there.
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    Re: 300 norma or 338 edge custom rifle build

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    What does he need a wyatts box for? I have not seen the seven energy wise beat on the big 300's. And there is something about the .30 cals on up they hit hard all the time. I will say the 7 are more pleasant to shoot and have high b.c bullets. But just because gunwerks compares the 168 berger to the 30-378 with a 165 partition does not mean anything to me. If a guy compares the 7mm with a 180 hybrid at .675 bc and the 215 berger with a .696 and both doing 3000fps with same conditions things change. Then you can take the winner of the two and up the velocity and compare to the 338 300 grain berger at 2850 fps and decide what you want or need. I would say there are a boat load of calibers that work to the 1000 yards but after that with elk in the equation the 338 wins all day long and only gets better when you get further out.
    He was being Sarcastic, and if you really amp up the 300's with the large pills in a improved version they keep up with the 338 in the 1000-1400 type range.Tom punches 2000 Yrds with his 338 LAI,65# rig. Sorry slow on keyboard, hunt the distance
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