Originally Posted by toddc
Why is it lost? No tracking/spotting skills? A deer hit in the guts with an edge or somethin similar is done. A 300 ultra...no. For some reason the 338 treats deer badly. These are 150 and under deer not canadian monsters. Ive killed way over 4 digits of whiteys with large guns at varying ranges and you are right most of the time a back of diaphragm hit is a cl&^*^&*ck. With a 338 300gr its just different.
No reason to go out and gutshoot a buncha stuff but a 338 300gr will cause a waaaaay different result than a 210 gr 300 ultra. That is a fact. And in closing it seems as if people dont know what to do if something goes wrong. LEARN TO TRACK AND SPOT.
If you shoot a deer with any gun and dont find it please go buy a bow and learn to track preferably with someone with decent vision helping you.
Animals dont wanna die, if you dont know how to thwart the escape....they will...its what they do whether its 50 ft or 1 mile. I guide for extra$$ every year and have for years, mostly I am more dangerous at 1 mile than my hunters are at 100 yds so I figure its not whether its a mile or 2 its can you do it and are you willing to risk it? Can you find where he was when shot...where he ran to? Its a big question.
I guided for almost 3 decades myself, 9 as a licensed outfitter. My experience with the 300 gr. 338 bullet at 1K on big game is zero. My experience with more common weights in 338, and many other rounds, at common hunting distances is considerable. Like anyone who has reason to participate in the taking of hundreds of big game animals, I have gained some experience in poorly placed shots.
Frankly I cannot buy the notion that because the bullet is a 300 gr SMK that it possesses some special quality that makes it a sure enough killer, especially at those ranges, even if it is a gut shot.
This sounds like the typical stuff I have heard from too many persons afflicted with "magnumitis". Funny part is, you state you have had a lot of experience. Not saying I don't believe you, what I think really doesn't matter. What I am saying is your experience seems to be much different from any other person with that level of experience that I have known personally.
A gut shot with any caliber is a poor shot. At close range if that big bullet would explode on impact, I can see it might bring down a gut shot animal fairly quickly. At 1K, or more yards?
Gotta call BS on this one.