Wolves gone wild.

[Topgun 30-06]

Simply put, a statistician can make a report and compile a bunch of BS to make things look however he wants it to! There are too many friggin wolves out west and the same goes here in our Great Lakes States. A good example of putting out stats to show what you want was showing the total deer kill figures in MI. If you broke it down into the UP where the wolves are and the LP, the kill is dismal now in the UP, other than in the southern agricultural counties where the wolves haven't taken over yet. Some evidently have even crossed the ice in the last winter or two and have now been documented in the northeastern part of the LP in our elk country. If they don't wipe out those four legged killing machines quickly and they get established there in the next few years, the elk seasons won't last long because there won't be enough to sustain any hunting seasons. They talked about having a moose season in the UP, but I doubt it will ever happen because the wolves are keeping their numbers down low enough such that a hunting season can't be justified.

[jmden]

Wolf attacks on humans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wikipedia historical article regarding wolf attacks on humans...might be worth a read.

[Coyboy]

Originally Posted by jmden

Wolf attacks on humans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wikipedia historical article regarding wolf attacks on humans...might be worth a read.

Classic from the link:

An old Nunamiut hunter, in an interview with author Barry Lopez, said that wolves used to attack his people, until the introduction of firearms, at which point the attacks ceased.[10]


Why I worry about my kids in the yard, when i have had 3 documented instances of wolves with-in 40 yards of my house.

A recent Fennoscandian study on historical wolf attacks occurring in the 18th–19th centuries indicated that victims were almost entirely children under the age of 12, with 85% of the attacks occurring when no adults were present.

[Coy Franks]

Originally Posted by bigngreen

Parvo and mange went through them a few years ago and didn't make much of a dent on the wolf, slowed the coyote down a little and wiped out the fox.

What kind of mange did they have? If it was Sarcoptic mange I really doubt they self recovered. Once those mites get under the skin and start feeding on blood there is not much the host can do to survive. I can see it if they had Demodectic as it effects the older weaker animals and those which are not in good health.

This is my experience where I live with coyotes, dogs, cattle and horses. Sarcoptic mange when not treated is fatal.

[extreme]

Just wondering how many of you gies posting on this wolf issue
would actually use poision or mites to control or wipe them out .
I ask this because you know it will also kill pets and maybe humans.

They tried this on coyotes in some places in arizona and it worked
but also killed a good number of dogs and cats....by they i do not mean the law.

I,am a hunter and agree they need to be controlled ,,but not by those
two methods..i feel most would be like me ,,,shoot them bury them
and say nothing.

[bigngreen]

Originally Posted by Coy Franks

What kind of mange did they have? If it was Sarcoptic mange I really doubt they self recovered. Once those mites get under the skin and start feeding on blood there is not much the host can do to survive. I can see it if they had Demodectic as it effects the older weaker animals and those which are not in good health.

This is my experience where I live with coyotes, dogs, cattle and horses. Sarcoptic mange when not treated is fatal.

To be honest I don't know the difference, all I know is you find them missing hair patches and stinking, sometimes in summer you'll find them alive with large patches of hair missing. It's just the natural mange that goes through the dogs when they get thick, I've seen a few cycles of it over the years trapping.

[Colorado Cowboy]

The wolf issue is here to stay unfortunately. I believe the feds used the Endangered Species Act illegally to introduce a non threatened species into a new habitat where it has never existed before. If I was really flush with $$$ I would hire an expensive barrister and take them to court. This is not what Congress intended!

We don't have wolves here in Colorado, but it is only a matter of time until we do. I fully intend to practice S S S, I'm sure most of you know what that means.

I recently returned from a wilderness elk hunt to the famous Thorofare area of the Teton Wilderness area of NW Wyoming. I was supposed to be the trip of a lifetime for me. Historically hunters have very high success rates for elk, deer, moose & sheep in this area. This was surely not the case for our hunt. I went with a well known outfitter who ran a great operation. But we only got 1 elk (a cow) for 8 hunters!!! My guide said that he is seeing fewer elk, deer & moose every year. There were bleached bones everywhere that he said were from wolf kills. We saw wolves almost every day. I only saw one deer the whole trip. Saw a few elk who were so shittish that they would not bugle(we were there when the rut was on). Pretty sad situation.

Now there is talk of a new introduction of Mexican Wolves in the Colorado Plateau, whice encompasses the 4 Corners area where I live and hunt a lot.

This is just madness!