Originally Posted by sp6x6
DITTO THIS and the other too
Plus one more on both. I've hunted all over NW MT my whole life, and would like to take my kids soon as well. But as wolves arrive, game numbers drop like a stone. The wolf lovers all claim that the game species existed along side the wolf for thousands of years, and thus, it's supposed to be just as it was a few hundred years ago. The hole in this theory is that the game species now have never seen a wolf, and no longer have the skills/knowledge to deal with a new apex predator.
Wolves will take other predators kills as well (or just run them off the kill), this forces other apex predators to kill more often. We've seen a lot of strange behavior from lions and bears that are damn near starved. Healthy but hungry lions have even been found hanging out in barns, or on peoples decks eating their dogs and cats. There was a pic on here somewhere awhile back of a big tom that a guy found in his barn that didn't even run off when the guy came into the barn.
I've heard from some local outfitters that brown and grizzly bear cubs are becoming few and far between too. I haven't heard any hard facts that prove wolves are the cause of this. But the only change in the environment is the addition of the wolf, so as long as 1+1 is still 2... you get where I'm going with this.
Another big reason we hate em so much is that FWP ties our hands in regards to keeping them under control. They admit that the population is over what they call "sustainable" but won't increase bag limits or extend hunting/trapping seasons long enough to keep the numbers at what they call reasonable levels. So every year the population of wolves grows even farther beyond what it's supposed to be, yet control measures don't increase to even close to what they need to be. WY and ID are starting to make a little progress, but MT is still WAY behind the curve.
Sorry to be so long winded, but I just had a nice... We'll call it a "discussion" with a Sierra Club dumb-ass in the parking lot at the local FWP office, over the "smoke a pack a day" sticker on my pickup, and I'm still a little hot about it.