Shoot and Shovel

alaska · #1 03-04-2013, 06:10 PM

Shoot and Shovel

Very hard on moose population here in Alaska

And they leave most of what they kill to waste.........they just kill!

gspman · #2 03-04-2013, 07:38 PM

couldn't agree more

Gary Kaney · #3 03-05-2013, 04:53 AM

You forgot the third S. SHOOT, SHOVEL & SHUT UP. They taught me that back in the 90's hunting elk in Montana.

alaska · #4 03-05-2013, 08:48 AM

I love to see the wolfs back in the lower 48 but the damage they cause to livestock and elk heards is not worth it. Even here in Alaska some places I use to hunt are worthless after wolf packs went thru.

Now Hybrids are a problem in Lower 48....just like a cancer has to be cut out.
About as bad as wild hogs.

Sourdough · #5 03-07-2013, 09:40 AM

I don't know about you, but I'm selling the pelts here in Alaska. they will bring from $150.00 to $400.00 depending on quality. Now if it's out of season, OK follow the three S,s Shoot, Shovel, and Shut-up. But Wolf Trapping season is in full swing right now. In Methods and Means, one of the ways to take wolves under a trapping license is to shoot them. A 25-06 is needed to anchor them, leave the .17s, and .223s, and 243s at home. It's an easy way to pay for that new long range rifle, with a calibrated scope.

Willoughby · #6 03-07-2013, 05:09 PM

official wolf season just closed
SS season just opened
just two s's here in MT
no shovel

rooster740 · #7 03-07-2013, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sourdough

I don't know about you, but I'm selling the pelts here in Alaska. they will bring from $150.00 to $400.00 depending on quality. Now if it's out of season, OK follow the three S,s Shoot, Shovel, and Shut-up. But Wolf Trapping season is in full swing right now. In Methods and Means, one of the ways to take wolves under a trapping license is to shoot them. A 25-06 is needed to anchor them, leave the .17s, and .223s, and 243s at home. It's an easy way to pay for that new long range rifle, with a calibrated scope.

I am not trying to start a fight here and do agree that the 17 is not good wolf medicine and the 223 is marginal past 200 yards, but have you checked the ballistics on a 243 vs a 25-06 with similar projectile weight? The 243 is badazz wolf medicine, how many thousands of big game animals are killed by a 243 every year. Most deer weigh double the weight of a wolf.
On another note Montana Seasons for trapping and hunting are closed as of 2-28-13. I believe that most Idaho hunting areas are open still.
I have noticed a lot of wolf activity in the last two weeks here just nort of Yellowstone park. Oh and the elk numbers of the Northern Yellowstone elk herd are down from last years record low elk population numbers. To top it off Montana fish and game is doing a huge study to figure out why the drought is killing all of the moose in the area!