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Old 01-29-2014, 01:13 PM
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Re: Professional Hunter to Remove Idaho Wolves

The fish and game just recently announced they intended to lower the wolf numbers down to the 150 animal federal minimum and will hire more trappers to do it. The down side is they waited so long that it will take the rest of most of our hunting lives for the animals to recover unless they do relocations from the areas less effected. Even then it will be many many years before we see hunting like the glory years of the late 90's and early 2000's.
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Old 01-29-2014, 03:02 PM
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Re: Professional Hunter to Remove Idaho Wolves

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The hunter was successful and elimanted both packs he was after. He trapped 8 and shot 1. Not the least bit surprised that the number 1 tool, was traps. These are not easy animals to hunt. This will help. The wolves generally kill 1 elk per week per pack. That should help save a minimum of 100 elk in the areas the packs lived and hunted. The number is certainly higher as the wolves often kill cow elk that are pregnant. My guess is at least 150 elk will spared, most of which are cows, which are not hunted during the rifle or gerneral season.

Now, if we could just figure out a way to deal with the fire problems that keep destroying huge tracks of wintering habitat. Oh, yeah, let the forest be managed properly by thining and selectively cutting....... no wait, that won't work....that is a scientifically proven method and it bolsters economic welfare of the counties the trees reside in. We can't have that, we need to use emotion and lawsuits to stop all human activity and let the law of nature preside over everything. Screw it, lets all go hug some bug infested trees and parastie infested wolves.



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This is all common knowledge so excuse my rant!
The fire problem is too much like the wolf problem! There is too much federal money in fire fighting! I feel that if you build a house in timber country you better be able to protect it from fire, not my tax dollars! They will not allow any logging but a lot of times will let a fire get out of control and then spend millions fighting that fire. If logging was allowed in these areas the fires would not get out of control and I would bet that the logging industry, and lobbies on the hill would get the fires out in logging country a whole lot faster!
The Gooberment put wolves here, spent millions studying them and protecting them for too long! The gooberment put wolves here in historic ranch and farm country but tied the protective hand! The Montana Fish and Game can not figure how to sell nonresident licenses. Their latest proposed solution is to raise the cost of resident licenses to generate income.
Cow elk all over the place and no legal bulls in an area that was world renown for lots of big bulls, but roughly 50% bulls 50% cows are born. So we all know that screwy managed big game does exist. Until 4 years ago it was a felony to kill a wolf unless its presence met strict criteria. 4 years ago was 15 years too late to protect all big game that hunters pay good money to be correctly managed!
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Old 01-31-2014, 09:19 AM
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Re: Professional Hunter to Remove Idaho Wolves

Wolfer has gone home now.
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Old 02-01-2014, 01:34 AM
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Re: Professional Hunter to Remove Idaho Wolves

Here is a news article published today about the wolfs taken out by IDFG, this from a news letter I get weekly over here in Washington State. Says they only eliminated 9 of them! I'd rather it been 90 or more. IDFG Ends Wolf Control Actions In Middle Fork Salmon Wilderness Area
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Old 02-07-2014, 12:35 AM
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Re: Professional Hunter to Remove Idaho Wolves

Sad state of affairs. Its about like our military in wartime and otherwise really. I support our troops to the fullest and would hate it if any veterans took this the wrong way, but too much bureaucracy can weaken anything. There are some darn-good team leaders, platoon leaders, company commanders out there, etc. But eventually you get up high enough where it becomes a guy that skated through his whole career without ever being shot at yet commands all the men who get shot at on a daily basis. Go above them, and you get to the politicians. Dont think I have to say anything about them, CCR`s "Fortunate Son" addressed that better than I could for a generation before mine but it certainly still applies.

Id wager the majority of the people in the Fish and Game departments are not out humping it through the hills and woods very much at all, if ever. Certainly the ones giving their all to protect wolves are not out there taking down game or knew what the purposes of sheepdogs meant. Wolves are our competition, theres no benefit I can think of to having them around.

With that said, quite a few have brought up how difficult it is to hunt wolves. Ive never hunted them before, or even seen any. Im genuinely curious, what makes it so difficult? Why/how are they so smart? For those that have taken down both, which is more difficult/smarter between mountain lions and wolves? Im guessing wolves arent nearly as curious as coyotes... Strange that wolves ended up so different from yotes.

Also, Ive seen it done out of a helo, but shooting from an airplane?? Ive never seen that done, figured they would be too fast to get an effective shot off.
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Old 02-07-2014, 10:36 AM
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Re: Professional Hunter to Remove Idaho Wolves

A lot like our military the wolf hunters have too many rules of engagement! Wolves vs lion in my mind a lion does not use it's nose at all comparatively. A lion will tree with one dog in usually a short distance, a wolf might be twenty miles away in the same time, and if not will kill those hound dogs and eat them in a hurry. A lion typically hunts solo, a wolf typically has more observers in the A.O. That help them stay aware of prey or danger ( hunters), and can vocalize what they observe a great distance. There are too many to list, but I feel like it would be easier to kill a human then a wolf that has been hunted.
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Old 02-09-2014, 11:24 AM
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Re: Professional Hunter to Remove Idaho Wolves

I read this on another forum:

"The Eskimos have always greatly prized the wolf. It's fur and meat are of great quality and the beast itself is both majestic and powerful. Killing a wolf was a nearly impossible endeavor without strong weapons, and yet the Eskimos found a way to do it. They did it not by force... in fact they never even touched the wolves. The wolves simply killed themselves.

An Eskimo would first sharpen a knife. They would then proceed to soak the knife in seal blood and then freeze it. Then they would dip it in again and freeze it once more. This covered the knife in layer upon layer of frozen blood. The knife soon resembled a Popsicle.

They would jam the knife's hilt into the snow where they thought wolves would be and left.

A hungry wolf takes a deep breath of the freezing Alaskan air. It smells something delicious. It's mouth starts watering as it tracks the scent. Fresh blood. The wolf eventually tracks the scent to the blood Popsicle. It begins to slowly lick it. It licks away layer after layer of blood until soon they reach down to just the knife. They cut their tongue, but they hardly notice. The freezing blood easily numbs the wolf's tongue. The wolf continues to lick at the knife, cutting itself more and more. Pretty soon, the wolf begins to feel weak from loss of blood.

Despite the obvious signs that the knife is harming it, the wolf continues to lick the knife. It ignores all of the negative signs. It feels that getting more blood from the knife would be the answer. Soon the wolf's mouth is so badly cut that blood starts pouring from it's wounds. The wolf's tongue starts to thaw as warm blood flows over it. The wolf is nothing short of ecstatic that they can taste more blood. It attacks the knife more vigorously and aggressively. It knows nothing but the taste of blood. The wolf will desperately continue to lick the knife until it collapses from blood loss and dies."

Have also heard about people using old lawnmower blades.
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