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Unread 01-16-2014, 12:16 PM
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Re: Professional Hunter to Remove Idaho Wolves

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The truth of this huge mistake of grey wolf introduction and the evidence of the elk and game losses cannot penetrate their arrogance.

We all suffer the mistakes of fools.

They are proven by their blindness.

KB
Yes it is true that the activist will jump on any band wagon that suits them whatever their ulterior motives are. Even here in Texas there are activist that support the wolf reintroduction. I spoke with the mother of a young girl that goes to school with my boy the other night that is one of those band wagon jumpers and was all for the wolf. I took about an hour, without being too condesending, and showed her many things she did not know. She did not jump completly off of that wagon, but only proved the tunnel vision these folks have without considering the consequences. It pains me to the core to listen to some of these hypocrites talk about the killing of a defensless animal while they're eating a steak.

The sad truth of the matter is that the activists seem to be more proactive in their fund raisers and lawsuits than our organizations are. Granted a lot of research is completed on our behalf to present in defense of our position, but for the most part we are more reactive than proactive. If organizations like the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, Rocky Mountain Bighorn Society, Mule Deer Foundation, Safari Club International, and on and on, would band togather and be more proactive using solid science maybe the tide would turn a little.

It does seem that we are asked to give and give, most of the time with no particular adgenda and maybe thats by design to keep some of the antis at bay. Show me an adgenda and I'll give a little more.
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    Unread 01-16-2014, 09:06 PM
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    Re: Professional Hunter to Remove Idaho Wolves

    We. Here in Idaho need the help. The wolf has been the hardest big game animal I have ever hunted. The animals learn and adapt so fast. They have the best of every domestic dog out there . I have been hunting them for 5 years and still have not filled a tag. I am a backcountry hunter. These dogs a freakin awesome predators. All I know is we better do something soon or the elk herd may not recover.
    Just my 2 cents
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    Unread 01-16-2014, 10:43 PM
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    There not recovering, and not going to . They eat 24/7 and they are like nap weed,you wont get rid of them now. It took a bounty on them back when. I have hunted all of MT and ID panhandle and elk hunting isnt even a shadow of what is was 10 yrs ago. It sucks
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    Unread 01-17-2014, 11:53 AM
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    Re: Professional Hunter to Remove Idaho Wolves

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    Couldn't agree more, in the area I elk hunt I have taken predator control very serious and I am in the thick of central ID. Well this year I saw more calfs (almost 30% cow to calf ratio) than i have seen in years (usually cow to calf is about 10%)

    If the fella knows what he is doing and utilizes traps and more importantly if he is a good snare man he will make a HUGE difference in that area.

    I heard about a guy who caught 5 or 6 on a couple of days using snares. Quite effective
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    Unread 01-17-2014, 11:58 AM
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    Re: Professional Hunter to Remove Idaho Wolves

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    We. Here in Idaho need the help. The wolf has been the hardest big game animal I have ever hunted. The animals learn and adapt so fast. They have the best of every domestic dog out there . I have been hunting them for 5 years and still have not filled a tag. I am a backcountry hunter. These dogs a freakin awesome predators. All I know is we better do something soon or the elk herd may not recover.
    Just my 2 cents
    I feel like the fishing game is using the wolf as a scapegoat as well. Not so much in the backcountry herds, I'm sure it's all wolves. but they're also counting elk in areas that migrate from other units where the fishing game management leaves quite a bit to be desired. We can't shoot all these cows so early with young calves. We can't hunt them for 5 months out of the year. The elk management plan of the fishing game is more about money than it is about elk numbers and they're putting us on a route to the type hunting where everyone must draw. It's absolute bs, at least in my zone!
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    Unread 01-21-2014, 09:18 PM
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    Re: Professional Hunter to Remove Idaho Wolves

    I would like to know how much money we're having to spend now to eradicate these wolves...talk about shooting themselves in the foot!
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    Unread 01-29-2014, 12:44 PM
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    The hunter was successful and elimanted both packs he was after. He trapped 8 and shot 1. Not the least bit surprised that the number 1 tool, was traps. These are not easy animals to hunt. This will help. The wolves generally kill 1 elk per week per pack. That should help save a minimum of 100 elk in the areas the packs lived and hunted. The number is certainly higher as the wolves often kill cow elk that are pregnant. My guess is at least 150 elk will spared, most of which are cows, which are not hunted during the rifle or gerneral season.

    Now, if we could just figure out a way to deal with the fire problems that keep destroying huge tracks of wintering habitat. Oh, yeah, let the forest be managed properly by thining and selectively cutting....... no wait, that won't work....that is a scientifically proven method and it bolsters economic welfare of the counties the trees reside in. We can't have that, we need to use emotion and lawsuits to stop all human activity and let the law of nature preside over everything. Screw it, lets all go hug some bug infested trees and parastie infested wolves.
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