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Old 10-24-2012, 11:05 AM
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A malfunctioning AR is caused by something other than a properly installed gas tube getting dirty, and no, they DO NOT need to be cleaned. In fact, that's a fast way to wind up at a gunsmith, with his having to disasseble the rifle to remove the now stuck pipe cleaner in the tube. Yes, I know there's kits available for this, but that's someone taking advantage of a marketing gimmick, not sevicing an actual need. Pure snake oil, nothing more. The military doesn't clean their gas tubes, and I'll guarantee you they see far more abuse than any of our rifles ever will.
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:16 PM
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Kevin - Do you know of a good web site or link that gives practical cleaning advice?
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:23 PM
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The straight military PMs and FMs are probably the most authoratative sources, but there's some other decent references out there as well. I'd recommend most anything that Glen Zediker's done, as well as the books by Derrick Martin or John Feamster. These all deal with competitve ARs in particular, but they all touch on cleaning pretty thoroughly. Derrick, if I recall correctly specifically mentions the gas tube cleaning debacles, and I've been in his shop at Camp Perry when one of these guns was brought in by a shooter. Yeah, quite a discussion on that one.

As far as websites, I'm sure there are, but I can't say which ones. There's a ton of info on AR15.com, some good, some bad, some total BS. I'd take much of what you find thre with very large grains of salt. You might also check the National Match forum at usrifleteams.com. Some very good info there, devided by rifle type; AR, M1 or M14, etc..
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:30 PM
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Re: proper cleaning

Thanks Kevin.

I agree regarding AR15.com. You have to take it with a grain of salt. When I was shooting those rifles I read it looking for the best ammo deals and before Iraq 2 there were some darn good ammo deals. There were also some very good members who did pass on their knowledge, I am not sure they are still there.

Many thanks for suggesting the books. I already have Glen Zediker's book on Handloading (will read this winter). I know he is the authority on slings.
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Old 10-24-2012, 06:36 PM
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Re: proper cleaning

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A malfunctioning AR is caused by something other than a properly installed gas tube getting dirty, and no, they DO NOT need to be cleaned. In fact, that's a fast way to wind up at a gunsmith, with his having to disasseble the rifle to remove the now stuck pipe cleaner in the tube. Yes, I know there's kits available for this, but that's someone taking advantage of a marketing gimmick, not sevicing an actual need. Pure snake oil, nothing more. The military doesn't clean their gas tubes, and I'll guarantee you they see far more abuse than any of our rifles ever will.
Actually it WAS a gunsmith that took the gas tube off and cleaned it and port, put it back togeather and it runs just fine. But I guess you seem to know more about it than he does he is only building and selling about 20-25 a week right now. I'll let him know you never have to clean a gas port.
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:45 AM
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Re: proper cleaning

rick523,

Taking a bad gas tube off and replacing it (which is what I'll bet he actually did) isn't exactly a routine cleaning operation, it's upper echelon maintanence and repair. Built more than a few ARs myself over the years and have been using them extensively for about 35 years now. There was definately something else going on with that rifle.
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:34 AM
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Re: proper cleaning

With my Rock River .308 I treat it about like my bolt guns as it has a stainless barrel. With my chrome lined barrel on my 5.56 I am meticulous but careful with the solvents used. +1 on the Sinclair bore guide. Also, make sure to take bolt/carrier apart to get all the carbon out. They make special brushes and tools to hit all of the nooks and crannies. However, standard cleaning items can work. There is a plethora of info about cleaning on the web. I know some guys use and abuse there ARs but I try to keep them as maintained as any other weapon. Take care of it so it will function when you need it. My .02 . Have a good one!
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