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Old 11-26-2011, 09:24 AM
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Re: POF or LWRC piston driven ar's

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I wouldn't touch either of those guns with a ten foot pole. There's tons of examples of LWRCi guns having to go back... Pat Roger's batch, etc.

They've even failed on the Military Channel shows. I watched the goofball from LWRC hand cycling every round on one of the shows.
And you are whom exactly? Any experience dealing with the rifles yourself or are you just another internet keyboard commando? Disclosure: I was the VP Operations for LWRC until about 3 years ago when the company was bought out and moved from VA to MD. I know what the rifles can do and many of the issues are as a result of 'growing pains' of moving from less than 500 rifles a year going out the door to over 10,000. With growth like that, problems will occur from time to time. What matters is how they are handled and it seems that the current management at the company is truly interested in taking care of the customer's issues.

Now, having said all that, I wouldn't buy a piston gun for what the OP says he wants to do with it. Sure, piston guns run a lot cleaner (I have an original LWRC gun with over 16,000 rounds on it without cleaning, much of it full auto) but for 'regular' guys, DI guns will, if built properly and lubed appropriately, run as reliably as piston guns.

Folks are free to spend money as they choose but for the price of one LWRCI .308, I could buy a similar DI gun with at least 2 other complete uppers in different calibers such as 7mm.08 or .260 or .243. Go crazy and buy a lower and two other uppers in .300 SAUM or similar and buy a crap load of ammo for it!

As far as 6.8 is concerned, I think I was the first person in the US to shoot a cow elk with one about 5 or 6 years ago but I might be wrong. It is a great caliber and again, just go buy a DI gun and spend the difference between that and the LWRCI on ammo. Best ammo to buy is made by my good friends over at Silver State Armory in Pahrump, NV. Silver State Armory manufactures and sells 6.8mm SPC Ammunition and custom brass cases, 5.56mm ammo, .223 Remington, 7.62mmx51mm ammo, .308 Winchester, Bullets for sale

Piston guns excel in shorter barreled carbines (10.5" and below) or when lots of full auto and/or suppressor work is anticipated. If I was heading overseas into combat, I'd surely want one.

If you are stuck on a piston gun, Ruger make a very nice product as do my friends at PWS. http://primaryweapons.com/store/pc/tactical.asp The Ruger in 6.8 is slightly flawed in that it does not have the Spec II chamber or a 1-11 twist rate that will get the best out of the round but other than that, it is a great rifle for the money.

Other than my already disclosed connection to LWRC, I have no interest in any other companies I mentioned. POF is a company that has made great strides forward over the years but based upon my own experiences with the rifles, I cannot recommend them as I have seen too many issues arise with the basic design.

Choose wisely grasshopper!

FYI: lest anyone be doubters of who I am or what I say, here's a couple pics of me and my cow elk. These pics are also on the SSA website and used to be on some other forums years ago.







You mention the Military Channel: were you there? I wasn't for the last program but prior to that? Well, you be the judge......


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Old 11-27-2011, 11:40 PM
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Re: POF or LWRC piston driven ar's

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Other than my already disclosed connection to LWRC, I have no interest in any other companies I mentioned. POF is a company that has made great strides forward over the years but based upon my own experiences with the rifles, I cannot recommend them as I have seen too many issues arise with the basic design.
I do not post here but visit the site regularly. Just my 2 cents, having both POF and LWRC rifles. My POF 308 (former) had a habit of vertical stringing after about 20 rounds, my REPR's are 1/2 MOA and 3/4 MOA respectively and just run. I do have a POF 6.8 and it runs well, and have no problem recommending it, but in .308, LWRC is the easy preference.
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Old 05-31-2012, 10:48 PM
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Re: POF or LWRC piston driven ar's

i have 2 pof's 308 and had a problem with one and cody at pof sent a call tag to my home and fixed the prob and next day aired it back all about 5 days as far as being a dick well i had a real good experience
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Old 06-01-2012, 07:43 AM
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Re: POF or LWRC piston driven ar's

i have a 20" bull & a 16" std and the 20 is in my opinion the way to go for long range and small game its just my opinion i shoot 300 yrds very nicely hope it helps
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