Well, I am using my 223 for right now for hogs until RRA finishes my 458 socom upper. I'm going hunting for hogs Saturday night and Sunday morning so I went ahead and purchased some toys to use and in preparation for my 458s. Bushnell TRS 25 red dot and Fenix TK11 light. I just wish the TRS dot was clearer. Even on the lowest setting the dot isn't crisp and there is a kind of halo effect around the dot.