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03-22-2004, 02:44 PM
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AR15 rifles?
I've been thinking I need an AR, gott too many rfles not to own one [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
So I have limided chioices here, they don't import many but what did catch my eye was a 26" barreled flat top Bushmaster V-Match.
After talking to a few who know more than me about them I got the impresion that they are a lot of trouble if you want to get MOA accuracy, not to dare mention better...
So I'm prepared to do all the reloading need, maybe add on some extras but no more.
Would I be happy with such a rifle and would it give me MOA?
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03-22-2004, 03:08 PM
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Re: AR15 rifles?
I don't understand the information you got.
My Bushmaster Varminter regularly prints 5 shots in .5 MOA. The opinions I regularly hear confirm that AR rifles are often extremely accurate.
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03-22-2004, 03:17 PM
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Re: AR15 rifles?
I have 2 of them, both flat top Bushmaster's, one is a 24" varminter and the other is a 16" modular.
The first AR I owned was the 24" varminter, very accurate, nice trigger and consistent even with a heated up barrel.
I wanted something that was more manueverable for predator hunting so my fiance bought me the 16" modular for Xmas 2003. I put a 4.5-14X50 30mm tube Leupold on it and was very impressed with it shooting consistent moa at 100 yds with bulk 50gr TNT ammo from cabelas!
I love the Varminter, but time after time I find myself using the 16" modular more times than not.
I don't think you will be dissapointed with a 16, but one thing I will tell you is you need to install a jewell trigger. The factory trigger on the V-match's are very stiff.
Good luck.
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03-22-2004, 06:20 PM
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Re: AR15 rifles?
I don't know who you talked to about the 16" V-Match, but most of the ones I've seen or shot were tack-driver's w/ the addition of 1) an Accuwedgie and 2) a Jewell trigger. Didn't like the Black Hills Match ammo, which was disturbing, but it shot very nicely w/ handloads. 5-shot dime-to-nickel sized groups @ 100yds. Amazing, considering the chrome-lined bore. But there were more than a few of us over on Go Go Varmint Go board that had them, and just about all of them shot very well.
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03-22-2004, 07:31 PM
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Re: AR15 rifles?
A Rock River has a trigger approaching the quality of a Jewell right out of the box with the same level of accuracy.
They're one of the best kept secrets of ARs. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
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03-22-2004, 08:19 PM
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Re: AR15 rifles?
My Rock River Arms Varmint 24 and 16" CAR A-4 have two stage triggers and are a delight to shoot. A friends Bushy Varminter has a good trigger too. The good thing about RRA is they include their two stage match trigger on all their rifles.
The RRA 16" flattop would easily shoot MOA and the Varmint 24 well under MOA at 100 yds with WW USA 45 gr hp.
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03-22-2004, 10:06 PM
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Re: AR15 rifles?
Well, I'm gonna have to disagree w/ the comments about the RRA triggers...
1) I have a RRA lower, the non 'National Match' one... and it came w/ a normal cruddy non-match trigger like most AR's come w/. It came out, and a Jewell went in for the time being (because I already had one).
2) The 2-stage RRA NM trigger is pretty good as factory triggers go. I'd perhaps disagree w/ it being in the same class as a Jewell out of the box, but it is pretty good. Where it really shines is if you have a really good AR smith like John Holliger slick it up for about $35 or so. My Jewell is great, and I love the adjustability, but they have a bit of a tendency for light strikes, so my Service Rifle will most likely be getting a Holliger tuned RRA NM trigger.
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