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Old 03-26-2011, 10:46 AM
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Re: AR-15 with my tax money...

First off the man said he wanted/had $1500 to spend on an AR.

Secondly, I partially agree with you in that NOVESKE makes some damned fine rifles. Probably the finest out there. And I agree with you that group size could have been influenced by ammo and experience. However his rifle was throwing some respectable groups as was mine. And I agree that when you make as many rifles as Bushy does sometimes QC can be an issue...However...I stand by my assertion that you don't need to spend $2K-$3K+ to get a VERY GOOD AR...as a former Marine Armorer/Competition shooter with 35 years experience building and tuning ARs and being able to afford ANYTHING I want, I mean anything, I see spending that kind of $$$ on an AR is simply frivolous and unnecessary. Sure...its a Porsche but why do you need Porsche AR when all you really need is a 4x4 F150...oh and BTW I recently saw a Porsche have its ass handed to it by an Subaru WRX, sure it had a few after market parts bolted on but he also had $75,000 more pocket change than Porsche boy...Peace...

Thirdly, and same goes with bolties...I've got a Savage .308 with an aftermarket barrel, trigger and stock now, with a $400 SWFA SS 10x42 that will shoot with anything out there costing $3000-$4000+...just saying you aint gotta spend a lot of $$$ to drive tacks. I've got less than $3500 in THREE extremely accurate battle rifles.

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Old 03-26-2011, 01:41 PM
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Re: AR-15 with my tax money...

I'm kinda with Capt Beach....especially for the first one. Get a reasonable gun to learn with. If he gets a "lemon" factory gun, he can get it tuned up at a local gunsmith without having to get a second mortgage. Spend a little extra on a good trigger and some decent glass. I'm glad I started with a78 dodge ramcharger(parts kit M4 on a superior lower) and worked my way up.

As for the varmint hunting portion, will these include yotes or foxes? If it's a varmint that pays attention to their surroundings, get yourself C-Mag magazines. They fit nice and tight and don't twang/rattle as you shift your position for the shot. Or you could get some cheap 20 rounders and stick toothpicks between the magwell/magazine (been there myself). Also if you're thinking 'yotes past 100 yards, my experience is the 55grn softpoint hornady's penetrate well and put them down.

As we all know, this Black Rifle Disease is nasty stuff. By the time you get this first one figured out, you'll know more about what you want/need for your specific situation. You'll get yourself a 24" fluted bull with 1 in 8" twist so you can shoot 69 hp's or whatever your heart desires.

I got this pic from a friend and it sums it up, sopmod "It's like barbie for men."

Good luck with it,
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Re: AR-15 with my tax money...

CaptBeach
We will have to agree to disagree on this one

1500 is alot of money here are some examples of what to get for under 1500$

Daniel Defense M4 Carbine 223 W/Omega X Rail Handguard & Grip
Colt M4 Carbine 6920 AR15 16"
http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin...&since=&status=
Defender Standard Patrol Model 16 - Featured Products

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CaptBeach
We will have to agree to disagree on this one

1500 is alot of money here are some examples of what to get for under 1500$

Daniel Defense M4 Carbine 223 W/Omega X Rail Handguard & Grip
Colt M4 Carbine 6920 AR15 16"
http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin...&since=&status=
Defender Standard Patrol Model 16 - Featured Products

Buy it once buy it right
No problem, agree to disagree, Its Fords and Chevy's versus Porsche's, but might I point out none of the rifles you point to are what he was asking for...$1500, Target and Varmint...and none included glass. That would set him back another $375-$1000 depending on his taste. While all are excellent rifles one is still really paying a premium for "name brands" Not to deny that all of them have made names for themselves. Good names...

For $1500 he can have it all, accuracy, good glass, reliability in a rifle suited to his needs or he can have a name brand sitting in a case or safe waiting for $$$ to buy a scope...

But peace...we can agree to disagree...
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Old 03-26-2011, 03:17 PM
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Re: AR-15 with my tax money...

agreed I got off topic to say the least
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Old 03-26-2011, 03:19 PM
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Re: AR-15 with my tax money...

hey...they make some good wine in NY...At 52 I'm becoming a wine snob...I've discovered my palate...LOL...
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hey...they make some good wine in NY...At 52 I'm becoming a wine snob...I've discovered my palate...LOL...
I used to live where you live now. Im a wine snob too its ok. Keeps you thin
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