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Old 01-25-2012, 06:39 PM
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458 socom or 450 bushmaster

I`m looking at doing a build for an AR. Which would be better the 458 socom or the 450 bushmaster for raw knockdown power on wild hogs or anything else that gets in my sights?
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Old 01-26-2012, 07:31 AM
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Re: 458 socom or 450 bushmaster

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I`m looking at doing a build for an AR. Which would be better the 458 socom or the 450 bushmaster for raw knockdown power on wild hogs or anything else that gets in my sights?
Thanks in advance, Robster
I can't help you with the 450 bushmaster but I have both the 458 socom and the 50 beowulf.... Both are great bush guns with plenty of knock down capability.... Be aware that reloading is the way to go for any of these..... Ammo can be hard to find and pricey.....
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Old 01-26-2012, 02:05 PM
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Re: 458 socom or 450 bushmaster

Reloading is not a problem.How is the brass life between the two? I thought about the beowulf but I heard that brass was hard to get.And I don`t need another gun with hard to find brass!
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Old 01-26-2012, 02:51 PM
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Re: 458 socom or 450 bushmaster

ROBSTER, Starline sells Beowulf brass now. The dark days are over!
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Old 01-26-2012, 02:58 PM
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Re: 458 socom or 450 bushmaster

doubledown is right..... I've found it's easier to find beowulf brass than the 458 socom....

Have only shot a couple hundred rounds through each so pretty early to tell but so far the brass doesn't show any signs of any problems..... I taper crimp both and don't push the limits on my loads so would expect not to have a problem since the brass is not really stressed.....
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Old 01-26-2012, 03:59 PM
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Re: 458 socom or 450 bushmaster

I went through this same thought process about a year ago and decided on a 450 bushmaster.

There were several reasons, Price, velocity/Trajectory and energy.

For a compairson I used the lightest bullet offered to make a Apples to apples compairson
(That will give the best trajectory and in most cases the highest energys in an AR platform).

450 Bushmaster= 2200 ft/sec MV. 2686 ft/lbs energy @ $30.00 a box.

458 Socom = 1835 ft/sec MV. 2243 ft/lbs energy @ $58.00 a box.

50 Beowulf = 1880 ft/sec MV. 1880 ft/lbs energy @ $28.00 a box.

Note Both the 458 Socom and the Beowulf use special brass and the 450 Bushmaster brass
is very reasonable and can also be made out of 284 Winchester brass in the event you cant
find the 450 brass.

The only thing that came close or slightly bested the 450 was the beowulf with 400 grain bullets
by les than 200 ft/lbs but the trajectory is terrible and this load is for close range.

There is a fare amount of recoil with all of these rounds with the AR platform.

There are similarities in all three but I liked the all round advantages of the Bushmaster.

Just my choice.

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Old 01-27-2012, 04:43 PM
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Re: 458 socom or 450 bushmaster

Bob j,Doubledown thanks for your input it will help.

JE, I like the 450 bushmaster info compared to the beowulf and socom.What does the 450 use for bullets .451 or .452 or doesn`t it make a difference?
What is better the gas operated or piston? Does anyone make custom 450 uppers I seem to only find them from bushmaster.
Thanks again every one for your input,Robster
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