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Old 10-21-2011, 01:37 AM
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X-bow VS. regular bow?

I have been wanting a X-bow for some time now. I am looking at the high end x-bows with the higher speeds. One thing has me perplexed though. Say you have a x-bow that shoots the standard bolt at 350FPS. Then you have a speed bow that throws a arrow at 350FPS. How do the two compare at say 30 yards, 45 yards, 60 yards, 75 yards ect.? I can shoot a bow pretty dang well for as little as I have shot so I wonder why by the x-bow over the regular bows? I don't know why, I have wanted a x-bow for years and years. So what is the advantages and disadvantages of each?
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Old 11-11-2011, 08:44 PM
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Re: X-bow VS. regular bow?

I shot a bow for many years and killed a lot of whitetails with it. Now, I shoot a crossbow because of an injury,,,what is the difference you ask when the speeds are close to the same? #1- My Desert Stryker crossbow shoots an honest 353 ft/p/s with a 100gr Thunderhead Broadhead, not many bows will do that. But here is the difference as far as hunting goes...you pick up a crossbow, flip the safety off, aim and pull the trigger,,,,same as a rifle!!! With a bow you gotta stand up, pull the bow back (without gettin' caught) then shoot....A bow is still and always will be the extreme challenge!!! but a crossbow is still fun and I'm thankful that I am allowed to hunt with it or I'd not be in the woods as early each year!! I shot a deer 09-24-11 with my crossbow at 42 yds,,,hit it in the left shoulder, went through into the right shoulder and out into the ground....it busted up BOTH shoulders I mean BUSTED the bones,,,,as well as any rifle!!!!amazed me, I've busted a bone or two with my Mathews,,but nothing like this!!!!!
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:33 PM
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Re: X-bow VS. regular bow?

In my opinion x-bows are to noisy, heavy, too slow to reload, and to guys like me who constantly struggle to keep a flinch under control do not like to shoot them due to nasty trigger pulls and strange recoil sensation. However having said that i know i stepped on some toes, and if someone wants one or needs one to stay in the hunt i'll sure not turn up my nose at 'em. But for me it's either a recurve or compound, or nothing at all.
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Old 12-16-2011, 09:53 PM
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Re: X-bow VS. regular bow?

Sako7STW,

I would have loved to continue to shoot my compound. Could get off second shot without getting caught too. But physical damage to my frame work over the years has nullified that and now I'm 'still in the hunt' with my third X-bow.

Yes the X-bow is heavier than a 4.2 pound compound about the same as scoped rifle...mine weighs in at 8.7 loaded which is light. They are a pain in the ass to carry with a climber on your back especially if your back in 3/4+ of mile even with a sling. I don't know about movement bringing up a X-bow vs. shooting a compound from a sitting position as I did alot of....movement is movement to deer.

But you will smash shoulder bones easily if you have a fast enough one...expendables are king in X-bow unless your shooting very long distance. I keep mine at 50 and under...just me. Most are scoped with dots/hashes/circles/point etc. at about 1 to 4 power range. I know a guys using 3x9's some states limit power ranges.

If you really want to 'try one' I recommend getting one used like off Craigslist.org You'll pay whole lot less. There are safety things to know about X-bows. Even cocking of the string is numero uno use an aid. I shoot a Parker Tornado new in 2010. If you get a X-bow get one over 300fps. Barnett makes one I think its called a Jackal outfit for @ $300 it runs about 320fps. Just try a few BEFORE you buy. Find a bow shop that has X-bows in stock. They'll usually let you shoot 'em before you buy at least my guy lets me. By the way he has 3 brand new Ten-Points sitting on the shelf...'cause the guys try it then try a Parker..they buy the Parker. Lifetime guarantee too.

p.s. Wed night I did get the second shot off without getting caught...on the second deer... a climber buys you unknown stands to these suburban Baltimore whitetails.
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Old 01-15-2012, 10:30 PM
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Re: X-bow VS. regular bow?

my hunting buddy had a 160 buck 12 yds in the open & couldn't pull back in a too low treestand. his 8 pt little buddy rat fink and a couple does were on lookout. Crossbow? it'd been all over. I'm still sick. I'll take the CB over a conventional any day. This year, I killed a small 8 at 37 yds with a parker buckbuster 175. complete pass through and dead after walking less than 15 yds. Gotta love it.
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Old 01-19-2012, 12:25 AM
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Re: X-bow VS. regular bow?

Hi SAKO7STW,
For the record there are very few differences between a crossbow and a regular compound bow regardless of what you may here from others. The main differences are in the fact that when shooting a regular bow you would a much longer draw length, so let's say for example purposes that your draw length is 28". This means that when you release an arrow you would have approximately that number of inches (minus your bows brace height) to develop the 300 + fps of arrow velocity required to hit and penetrate your target.

"Penetration" is a formula based on mass weight x speed, so it's the weight of your arrow and point x the fps you've generated coming off your bow.

On a crossbow, which is nothing more that a bow turned sideways, mounted to a stock and operated off a trigger rather than a string release, you only have approximately 13" of cable travel in which to develop the same or greater velocity as you do on your compound bow at almost 28" of string travel. This means that it would require much more bow poundage to achieve the same or greater arrow velocities in that short of a distance with the crossbow because the bow is much shorter and the string travel is greatly reduced. The mass weight of the arrow is also much lighter, due to the fact that the arrow shaft has been shortened by several inches.

There is no difference in performance between a cheap or medium priced crossbow that shoots an arrow at 350 fps and an expensive one. The expensive ones may have more amenities on them or may be more well built or even have better sight systems, but 350 fps is 350 fps no matter what it comes out of, so the accuracy and performance of a 350 fps projectile remains the same as long as the mass weight remains the same.

The better high performance crossbows that you refer to usually have velocities far exceeding 350 fps and are generally in the range of 400 + fps. This may not sound like much, but every 25 fps of an increase is very significant. In order to achieve any type of useable accuracy at anything over 50 yards you would need a crossbow that shoots minimally 375 fps, but 400 + fps will allow accuracy to at least 100 yards with enough penetration to pass through a large animal.

If you look at the design of the PSE TAC15 / 15i crossbows, they are the only crossbows to shoot a 22.25" arrow. This means that they have a significantly longer cable stroke than any other production made crossbow. Their bow weight is 155 lbs. and the velocity is an average of 405 fps. Since the cable is cranked back into the load position by a cranking mechanism, it requires very little strength or effort to turn the handle to load these units.

This makes it a great shooting crossbow with extreme accuracy, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a great hunting crossbow. Power and accuracy are two important factors, but size and weight are also important for many hunters.
The TAC Series crossbows are a bit long and can be heavy compared to many of the less expensive crossbows on the market. For those looking for light and short, this is not going to be a good match up. For those looking for extreme accuracy at all distances up to and exceeding 100 yards, this is the best xbow available.

There are no crossbows that even come close to covering all the bases in all of these areas. Pick and choose those qualities that are most important to you and then invest on that basis. Today's latest generation of crossbows are making enormous advances in performance and durability with the new technology and the latest new materials and composites available, but the same can be said about today's new generations of compound bows. As we know these materials heavily impact the price to performance ratio.

The biggest difference is that even attempting to shoot a compound bow at targets 100 yards or more is almost unheard of, but with the right crossbow and a good deal of tuning work, it's very doable for the average person with the right crossbow.

Hope this helps with the basics!

Jon Henry
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