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Old 04-17-2008, 06:42 PM
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Crossbows - Good or Evil?

In Wisconsin I will be able to hunt with a crossbow at age 65. I never considered it until my buddy told me he plans to try it. His motivation is to be able to effectively hunt from the ground. He feels it would be more possible to do so since movement of draw would not be an issue. I think he has a point.

What are your thoughts?
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Old 04-17-2008, 07:07 PM
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Here in VA about 2-3 yrs ago they made crossbows legal for anyone. We had the usual crying, wailing and moaning of the traditionalist archery crowd that the world was coming to an end and we must all repent and crucify all crossbowers to be saved.

However, couple years later, they all survived the process and we have a lot more hunters bowhunting now. and everyone seems to be getting along and by all aspects it has been very positive across the state.

I bowhunt for two weeks in MO every year with a disabled vet who uses one and he kills out to 40 yards and only way he can bowhunt. His new one cost over $1900. Cannot wait to see this beast.

We are losing hunters more and more every day. If it takes crossbows to get new ones out, then I am all for it.

They are not bad or good, just another tool. Just have to know how to use it. They cannot shoot 100 yards and hit a 2" circle, they are not the weapon of choice of a poacher yada yada.

Couple points.

Crossbows lose KE fast after about 30-40 yards and penetration is critical.

Cut on impact broadheads are an absolute must. Best I have seen are the Rage Expandables. Super penetration, fly like darts and huge holes.

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Old 04-17-2008, 07:23 PM
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About five years ago I could not draw my compound bow and hold it because of a shoulder injury and then Maryland legalized the crossbow. Fortunately, lifting very light weights has cured up my shoulder and today for the first time I broke a minute holding it back at full draw (35# of a 70# bow at 50% LO). I am so happy to have my shoulder back and not need a cross bow. My goal is to hold at full draw rock steady for two minutes.

For people who need it or want it I think it is fine. As best I could determine there was not much advantage because the new compounds will achieve over 300fps easily. Me and Hunlee will be shooting X Forces except I don't have short arms and 8 children.
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Old 04-17-2008, 07:32 PM
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Having never shot one, is it important to have a rest to shoot off of?
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Depends, my friend uses one of the steady stix setups and works very well.

He uses it from the ground and tree.

My guess is some of the new crossbows are pretty heavy and holding up for a while it would be unsteady. I would use the steady stix.

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That would be simple enough.
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Old 04-22-2008, 06:31 PM
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I think most states allow crossbow hunting for handicapped individuals now. That is a good thing. I applaud that effort. For people who can shoot a regular bow they are much better off because it is a much more effective weapon if you learn how to shoot it. The crossbow is a miracle weapon only in the movies folks. Not in real life.

Standard Bow: Pros; More accurate, longer effective kill range, can tune bow for better retained velocities downrange, heavier and longer arrows for better penetration. Con; You have to draw on game without being seen.

Crossbow: Pro; No motion in shooting, don't have to draw. Con; Triggers are terrible on the ones I have seen and most people jerk the shot. Less accurate, shorter effective kill range, Can not tune most of them and arrows fly erratically costing accuracy and retained velocity, velocity loss in combination with short light arrows destroy penetrating power on tartets such as hogs and elk in particular.

This just kind of hits a couple high spots but in summary the crossbow is a handicapped weapon. The only reason I cringe when people use them in archery season who are not handicapped is because they all think this is some kind of miracle weapon Rambo uses and has awesome destructive power. When in fact it is a very limited weapon as is a standard bow. A good archer would be limiting himself by choosing a crossbow so I have no problem with them being used during archery season from that perspective.

That is a very good point about stabilizing them also. They do not balance out like a rifle and are more difficult to shoot in that respect. All but the top shooters jerk every shot. With a rifle it is less visible because the bullet exits the barrel in microseconds. With a crossbow it is a much different story. First, rifle manufactures have worked for years to reduce the time between trigger release and firing pin strike. You can time a crossbow with a stopwatch it is so slow. Put that trigger assembly on a few rifles and watch those groups jerk left or right. Now combine that with the time it takes for string release and the arrow to push all the way down that ramp and exit the crossbow. Got to be pretty good not to jerk a few with that baby.

Crossbows are not the dream weapon a lot of folks think. That is all I'm trying to say. thanks
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