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Old 10-04-2011, 02:04 PM
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Re: TAC 15i limbs

Just happened to me, TODAY. Have had this tac 15i two weeks. Estimating about 300 shots to date. Was working on the problem lack of horizontal and vertical adjustment limits with HHA optimizer installed and now this.
Already had parts replaced on delivery because the cocking crank was bad.

John Henry, will you trade? One retired soldier to another? HA! HA!

Mike
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Old 10-04-2011, 02:21 PM
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Re: TAC 15i limbs

Well I spoke too soon. Just doing some last minute practicing before a hunt this weekend and darn if I did not have a cracking sound after I got it cocked. I could see the top left limb delaminating so I quickly shot the arrow out (about 20yds into the ground) before anything snapped.

This really is starting to get anoying !!! After just replacing the cable/strings paper tuning, and sighting everything in. I had it shooting nice tight groups out to 60yds.(With broadheads). Moved back to 80yds and had the next 2 shots shot left (I'm guessing that is when the limb started to give on that side). On the 3rd shot is when I heard it give way.

Now back to the shop and at least 2 more weeks without the bow !!! The rut starts around here at the end of the month so hopefully it will be good then.

WildWillie
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Old 10-04-2011, 03:48 PM
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Re: TAC 15i limbs

Hi Mike,
I'm starting to get very concerned about what the Heck is going on at PSE that we are seeing this many limb fracture problems. Has their quality control dropped to the point where they can't produce a limb that holds up to regular usage anymore?

The TAC15 and 15i crossbows are anything but new and they've been producing these things for several years, so something had to change in either their limb material or in the laminate bonding process they're using these days.

I think it would be a good idea to get Len Backus involved in this issue, because he has direct ties with PSE as a major TAC 15/15i distributor for them. Len has the ability to call and speak to both their engineers as well as numerous other product line personnel.

At this point, it's no longer one or two isolated cases and it's certainly not based on abuse or mis-use of the crossbow, so I think we need some answers and feedback.

I'll ask Len to look into what's happening at PSE to address these problems.

Regards,

Jon
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Old 10-04-2011, 04:03 PM
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Re: TAC 15i limbs

Hi Mike and WildWillie,
An e-mail has been sent to Len Backus asking him to please look into this problem with PSE and provide some feedback.

Regards,

Jon
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:23 PM
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Re: TAC 15i limbs

Thanks for the input Jon -

I got my Tac 15i for Christmas last year (Wife bought it from Len at this site) so it is less than 1 yr old. I shot about 150 arrows through it late Dec/Jan, but not much until Early Aug when I started regular shooting with it. I would say I have about 700 to 800 shots through it.

The split seems limited to the top left limb and about 1/8" of the top layer peeled back 3/4 of the way down the limb.

I can honestly say that just before that the x-bow was just starting to shine.

WildWillie
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Old 10-04-2011, 09:09 PM
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Re: TAC 15i limbs

Hi WildWillie,
Sounds identical to my own experience.

I purchased my TAC15i from Len for Christmas last year as well, but those orders didn't ship until late January, so I received mine and immediately began working on set-up, trigger replacement and a number of other changes before ever even trying to shoot it.

Everything outside was frozen cold and windy, so I didn't try shooting mine until about April of this year.

Once April came around and started using it, I was on it almost every day for hours, so I rang up a lot of shots very quickly. I was also doing a great deal of testing indoors at a large indoor archery facility in New Jersey, where I had some great help and support from a few good friends that either sit on the board for Easton Archery or who were engineers or pro shooters that I've competed with and known for many years.

They were gracious enough to help out and lend their advice to much of the testing I was doing to sort out some of the grouping problems that I was working on with Super 91, Okebowie and a guy named Konrad. All are great guys and very knowledgeable, so we had one of the best knowledge based teams working these problems that I've ever had the pleasure to work with.

It took a few weeks of testing work and a lot of documentation to nail down the issues, but we finally nailed the problems. They are all documented in my articles under "PSE TAC15/15i Undocumented Information".

I had limited experience with the TAC15 Crossbows, but over 40 years of experience with competitive archery and having an engineering background I understood well the dynamics of arrow flight, so it was just a matter of applying my background knowledge and skills to this crossbow. It seems I've been involved in many of the problems that shooters are experiencing ever since.

My goal was always to reach out and help as many other people as I could and at the same time spread the knowledge and educate them at the same time. It's my way of giving back to a sport and hobby that's been good to me over my lifetime and hopefully others will enjoy it more as they learn more about it.

Regards,

Jon
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Old 10-05-2011, 10:50 PM
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Re: TAC 15i limbs

Hi Hunter 38,
I heard back from Len Backus earlier this evening and he's going to check with Kevin, who's a PSE Engineer that Len knows well, on what the story is with the TAC15/15i limbs.

I don't know what type of feedback he'll get, but I will let you know what we learn.

Regards,

Jon
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