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I bought the Grim Reaper, the one that uses "springs" I am told instead of o-rings to hold the blades. The o-rings deploy under the high g-force of 400 fps flight so I can't use the normal Rage.

Dean said they fly just like field points. I know that may be true for "ordinary" distances but we at LRH know that the BC of any expandable is not going to be the same as a pointed field tip and I expect to have to adjust for that.
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    [QUOTE]I will have to shoot at separate dots for ranges under 70 yards so I don't waste arrows by hitting them in a tight group....QUOTE]
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    That's a terrible problem to have!!!!

    I cant wait to try mine.

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    I had a long chat with Bobby Vargus of PSE today. Among other things he told me they that they sometimes shoot groups using the same arrow repeatedly. They do that when testing to take arrow inconsistencies out of the "crossbow" equation.

    When using the same arrow, they achieve 1.5" to 2" groups at 110 yards from a bench.
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    when using the same arrow, they achieve 1.5" to 2" groups at 110 yards from a bench. Gun)

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    Back to the range this evening. Wind was very switchable at 2 to 5 mph.

    Started at 60 yards again. Same good groups. One of the two I shot was 2.75 inches. One of the shots had some vertical.
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    EDIT: I just remembered the errant arrow had lost one vane in flight, so of course it landed low.
    I got an email from another PSE tech guy late today. He said if you sort the arrows after shooting and try rotating the errant ones over by 180 degrees you get better groups. This is a little like sorting brass or bullets by ogive dimension so I will try that some time.

    My second 60 yard group was 2 inches but had only 1/4 inch of vertical!! Unbelievable. I wonder if I happened to rotate that errant arrow without trying to.

    Then on to 70 yards and another boring 2.25 inch group.

    I shot just one group at 80 yards and that one was 2.125 inches. It's fun to watch the hits through the scope. Thunk! Thunk! Thunk!

    Then home for the night as it was getting dim.

    I think I am quickly going to become a dealer.
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    Back to the range this evening. Wind was very switchable at 2 to 5 mph.

    Started at 60 yards again. Same good groups. One of the two I shot was 2.75 inches. One of the shots had some vertical.

    I got an email from another PSE tech guy late today. He said if you sort the arrows after shooting and try rotating the errant ones over by 180 degrees you get better groups. This is a little like sorting brass or bullets by ogive dimension so I will try that some time.

    My second 60 yard group was 2 inches but had only 1/4 inch of vertical!! Unbelievable. I wonder if I happened to rotate that errant arrow without trying to.

    Then on to 70 yards and another boring 2.25 inch group.

    I shot just one group at 80 yards and that one was 2.125 inches. It's fun to watch the hits through the scope. Thunk! Thunk! Thunk!

    Then home for the night as it was getting dim.

    I think I am quickly going to become a dealer.
    LEN.

    I have something for you to try.

    I used to number all of my arrows with the cock vane or the two cock vanes (4 Fletch) up
    1 through 12 or what ever the number of that particular arrows I had because shooting
    as much weight as I was, the slightest difference in spine or weight would change the POI.

    After you shoot each arrow/bolt "AT Different targets", make note of where each hit the target.

    You can then sort them by POI. and the errant arrows can be turned over to see if it makes a
    difference. If it does remove the number and place it on the upper side.

    I found that this made a huge difference when shooting broad heads and I saved the best ones
    for hunting and used the other for warm up shots.

    I used a Sharpie permanent marker and after sorting I re numbered in order of preference and
    identified the practice arrows.

    I hope this helps to get the most from your Tac 15.

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