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Old 08-10-2011, 11:11 PM
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New Toy and broadhead questions

Anyone try Ramcats on the Tac? That's what I shoot on my Parker and Compound. A freind is pushing me towards a Swacker because of bullistic reasons only, and I am not sure what broadhead can handle the force these generate.


Did I mention this is incredible to shoot. After 2 evenings, I wouldn't attempt to shoot at the same dot.

Bob

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Old 08-16-2011, 12:22 AM
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Anyone try Ramcats on the Tac? That's what I shoot on my Parker and Compound. A freind is pushing me towards a Swacker because of bullistic reasons only, ...
No doubt ballistics (consistent accuracy) are critically important. Likewise so is effectiveness and durability, when it comes to termination. Before I used either broadhead on a game animal, such as a Deer or Wild boar, I would want to test the broadhead.

One such method, out of many...
In the past I have bought a cheap rack of beef ribs and repeatedly shot broadheads into the ribs. Granted, not scientifically precise and repeatable, but better than taking a maker's claim.

What I found was that some broadheads were up to the challenge, while others were not. In once case a well known broadhead failed on its very first shot / impact making it, IMO, worthless in the real world. At a minimum, I want a broadhead to survive three such shots, no broken blades, no binding-up (mechanical), no bent main body, etc.

With that survivability said, I still do replace all blades after having shot the broadhead into a deer. So as to ensure the blades are as lethal as possible on the next critter. If I think the broadhead's body may have suffered damage (hit rocky dirt), I make that broadhead into a practice broadhead. And, yes I have several practice broadheads for 3D practice targets, but so far none of those foam bucks have runaway.
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Old 08-22-2011, 01:14 AM
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Re: New Toy and broadhead questions

Hi Dieselsite,
Please don't take this the wrong way, but I strongly suggest that you not take the word of a friend and certainly not the word of any manufacturer when it comes to which broadhead to use.

That questions is one of the big three questions in the sport of archery that boarders on religious fanaticism.

If you want to start an immediate argument in religion you simply ask a group of people "What is the Best Religion"? If you want to do it in archery, that's one of the easiest ways to do it and everybody has an opinion.

The gentleman who already answered your question is well versed and extremely knowledgeable about this sport, so I'm not going to counter any of the advice he's already provided you with. What I can add are a couple of simple facts that might help you in your search for a head that might suit your needs.

Their are many good broadheads, but just like guns there are different broadheads for different applications, therefore you need to be application specific.

For the TAC15 crossbow you will need to maintain a good F.O.C. (front of center) balancing of your arrows. Between 10 and 15 percent F.O.C. is generally what most professionals will recommend regardless if you're shooting a compound bow or anything else that propels an arrow. This means that you would typically want a broadhead that weighs in around 100 to 110 grains.

Mechanical s are OK if you can find some that won't fly open on the launch, but remember this crossbow has a violent launch cycle that will cause most heads to fly open most of the time, so be careful what you are playing with.

More importantly, it's less important as to if it's a mechanical or a fixed blade head than the design of the head. It's an undeniable fact that a non cut-on-contact broadhead requires 20 percent more energy than a cut on contact broadhead to puncture the hide of a game animal. This means that 20 percent of the stored kinetic energy of your arrow can be lost when using a non-cut-on-contact broadhead. With the TAC15's this is not to big a problem because you also have way more than you need, so you've got plenty to waist without worrying, but for efficiency purposes it's important to understand what the real priorities should be. Fixed blade or mechanical always find and select a good quality Cut-On-Contact style broadhead over all others.

You will never see a Big Game Hunter, such as those hunting African Game animals use anything but a cut-on-contact broadhead. There's a reason for this.

Last, find a broadhead that flies well for you and your weapon and don't worry about what everybody else is using. If you can find a broadhead that flies straight for you and has the other characteristics I just outlined, everybody else is going to wanting to know what broadhead it is that you're using!

Make sure you do some reading on how to tune broadheads to your arrow shafts. This is a critical step in getting good arrow performance. Regardless of what others may tell you, tuning is absolutely necessary to get good arrow to arrow flight performance in archery. It's not as simple as just buying a couple packages of broadheads, screwing them in and being ready to shoot consistent groups at over 50 yards. Just by simply weighing a series of new broadheads would tell you that you have a significant weight difference between the half dozen or dozen new heads. This weight deviation needs to be removed if you want to maintain really good elevation consistency at longer distances.

I hope this helps shed a little light on the real factors one needs to be concerned with instead of the things you typically hear about.

Regards,

Jon

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Old 08-30-2011, 10:47 PM
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Re: New Toy and broadhead questions

Ever wish we could all go back to being utterly naive about arrows (shafts, vanes, and points)?
You know the good old-days when you grabbed some of those "stixs" laying in the corner next to your golf clubs, ball bat and glove, weed wacker, jumper cables, and discarded over-draw shelf. Then went for some target practice at 15-yards...
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:49 AM
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Hi Okie,
Although not very effective at least it was a lot easier on the thought process and probably more fun in the end.
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Old 09-21-2011, 12:05 PM
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Re: New Toy and broadhead questions

Montec T3 mechanical broad head first shot i could of swore the arrow hit side ways on target 2nd shot my arrow helicoptered a mile away the tac 15 arrows are to exspensie to loose i think it taught me a lesson to not shoot mechanicals broadheads again I think the tac 15 is to powerfull for mechanical blades i have had luck with montec G5 fix blade and the new NAP fix blade also the nap is cheaper$ and is packs of 4 unlike the montec wich is packs of three but good luck at 80yrds with both........
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Anyone try Ramcats on the Tac? That's what I shoot on my Parker and Compound. A freind is pushing me towards a Swacker because of bullistic reasons only, and I am not sure what broadhead can handle the force these generate.


Did I mention this is incredible to shoot. After 2 evenings, I wouldn't attempt to shoot at the same dot.

Bob
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