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My first slug gun - considering a 870 or 220

 
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:20 AM
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Re: My first slug gun - considering a 870 or 220

You may want to check your laws. Some places are doing shotgun only ive heard no muzzle loaders. Don't know why. I for one would never trade my slug gun for a muzz, in two different cases I have been able to shoot more than one deer in a short period of time.about enough to reload. Yes ammo is pricey but once its sighted on who cares I done know many who use more than a box a year. Having both and living in shotgun zone I would do 20 slug. Either the H&r or savage I loved both, hr just shot better in my case. And yes 870 should be out of thought process.
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Old 11-20-2013, 08:40 PM
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Re: My first slug gun - considering a 870 or 220

why do I feel like I'm suddenly going from one 870 combo to 3 separate guns, slug/shotgun/muzzleloader?
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Old 11-20-2013, 10:16 PM
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Re: My first slug gun - considering a 870 or 220

Welcome to the million different choices. I would say to nail down exactly what you will use this gun for 90 percent of the time. My 870 combo is awsome in its own right. If you realistically will only need to shoot slugs 100 to 125 yards consistently a 870 will do that and kill birds. If you are more worried about longer range shots out to say 175 to 200 yards then you need to get a slug gun or muzzle loader. Both will do the longer ranges better just your choice of cheap ammo of the muzz or convenience of slugs. I still own my 870 and use it alot, I just know its capabilities and stick within it. Also whatever you choose make sure to equip it with a quality scope. Nikon or leupold. Just take your time and make sure you like what you choose and you will be happy.
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Old 11-21-2013, 10:12 AM
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Re: My first slug gun - considering a 870 or 220

Previous post stated that you can't reload for slug guns? You sure can, you just have a harder time finding info. Check out "BPI" or "Slugs are us" websites. Slugs are us has everything you need to get started, BPI has loading manual for slugs. Also check out articles written by Dave Henderson about shotguns, he has info on reloading slugs.
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Old 11-21-2013, 12:45 PM
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Re: My first slug gun - considering a 870 or 220

The question is not whether one can load slugs in shotgun shells. The question is whether one can create loads that replicate the performance of the Sabot loads which cost $3 each.

That, is a very different question and yes, it seems to be impossible to find the matching bullets and sabots for use in the 20ga shells and suitable for the rifled barrels. I investigated this topic for several months and could not find anyone doing this for rifle barreled shotguns.

To the OP, if you do not yet own a ML, I suggest you check it out. If you avoid the pitfalls (wrong bullets and powder / primers) you will find it a capable system. Cheaper than the alternatives and inherently accurate, since YOU can fine tune your load until it shoots great. With the slug guns, one is very limited by available factory ammo and the way the gun is chambered relative to the shells you are actually able to buy. I actually don't know if anyone is making a 3" slug load for 20ga anymore, yet all guns seem to be chambered for 3" shells anyway. This has an altogether different effect in a rifled barreled weapon vs a smoothbore.
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Old 11-21-2013, 04:20 PM
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Re: My first slug gun - considering a 870 or 220

That is part of the fun for some of us, trying to find or create loads that match factory loads at less cost and shoot as well. You can get 25 LBC Blu force sabots w/ slugs & primed hulls in a kit for $23 from BPI, which comes to about 92 cents per shot + powder (.13 cents). Or you can use SPW sabots w/ slugs from Slugs r us, 20 sabots w/ slugs are $13 + 20 cents per primed hull +13 cents per round for powder comes out to 98 cents per shot. This load really shoots in my hastings barrel, you can also shoot pistol or muzzleloading bullets with this sabot. I guess it is about what effort you want to put into making your slug gun shoot. JMO
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Old 11-21-2013, 04:50 PM
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Re: My first slug gun - considering a 870 or 220

3 inch slugs are easy to find federal, Remington, and Winchester all offer them although they are usually less accurate not sure why. Roc I am send you a pm. Got a slug load I'd like to see if your interested in developing.
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