@ ICAN, I'm not sure but isnt the Sabots that you find in shot shotshell the same sbaot the you find in with some muzzelloader bullets? I looked at some of my varies slugs, Winchest, supreme, extreme elite, Hornady sst, platnuim tipps, etc, They look like the same .451 bullet as my barnes muzzle loader Tipped TMZ 250 grian. If thats the case. They both travel about the same Fps give or take. Wind effect would be about the same. if theirs wind. I shot my slug gun at 200yrds and put them in a pie plate. There was about 10-15 mph wind. It didnt seem to effect the bullet. As far as shotguns being dead, here in Jersey they seemed to be the popular. If not just put a mil dot scope on I did.