22lr 40gr. .075bc 1040fps / .308win 165grSST .447bc 2600fps
22lr drop .308
50yds 0 = 100yds
75yds 2.8 = 175yds
100yds 8.3 = 240yds
125yds 17.6 = 315yds
150yds 30.8 = 380yds
175yds 47.3 = 450yds
200yds 68.7 = 510yds
225yds 92.5 = 560yds
250yds 123.9 = 630yds
275yds 158.2 = 690yds
300yds 199.9 = 770yds
325yds 248.8 = 820yds
350yds 304.8 = 880yds
375yds 367.9 = 940yds
400yds 437.6 = 987yds
i'm working on the wind drift one, i have 1 for each, just got to match the numbers up.
my thoughts on the drop chart was that if i'm shooting at 100 with a 22 and it drops 8.3", at what yardarge would my 308 drop 8.3" ? ....answered at 240 yards (at least with my set up).
so the next question would be....
if my 22lr, at 100 yds, drifts 5" with a 7mph 3:00 wind, my .308 drifts 5" at what distance with the same wind? answer is 300yards (at least with my set up), and is pretty darn close to what i get on paper.
i know that windage is super important, however to me, right now drop takes precedence over windage, so when i'm shooting at my 200 yard range and i have a guy next to me bustin my stones cause i'm using a 22, i'll have some data to say i'm simulating shooting a .308 at 510 yards.
then if the shooting gods are on my side and i pull off a 5" group, i can say i'm simulating a sub moa .308 at 510 yards. because i'm a natural loud mouthed cocky ahole, if the guy next to me shoots a +2" group, i can point out that on scale my "puny" 22 just outshot his .308
the tough thing is to find a "true simulation / trainer" for the .308, perhaps by a change of 22lr ammo to equal both drop and windage characteristics of the .308
as shown above at 100 yards the drop equals 240, but the windage is 300. perhaps by finding a 22 ammo (maybe high velocity)that comes closest to mimicing both drop and windage at several distances (if possible) would be the key to finding that TRUE simulation.
if not possible, one would have to settle for a 22 ammo that would be based on either the drop or windage of .308, (that would be of a personal preference i guess). mine would be drop, as i think it would be better in my case to go with elevation. it's usually easier and more consistantly predict bullet drop with the constants of gravity, temp., alt., and humidity, as compared to the wind which can make so many drastic changes in speed and direction at 100 and 200 and how much it affects the 22 at those ranges, and you can only get a truly accurate wind reading at your shooting station.
however my 22 shoots well enough as it's own entity, and i spent too much time getting there that i don't care if it mimics my .308 or not, just shooting it for what it is.
but will be working on a .22 to .308 wind chart, none the less ]]>
i was loosing accuracy somehow, then i did a "redneck" crown job on my mkii using a case chamfer used for reloading. i rolled the dice thinking 3 things:
1. need new barrel or take it to the smith to correct my stupidity
2. improvement in accuracy
3. no change what so ever
luckily it seems the "redneck" crown job worked. back in group size to where i was, and if not for 3 "flyers" @ 5:00, would have reduced my group from 2" to 1.5" at 100 yards. by the 2 large holes punched in, seems the consistancy is back.
the 200 yd group also looked better, with even less signs of vertical tracking.
i used the same ammo and similar weather conditions as before.
100 yards b-4
100 yards after
200 yards before
200 yards after
]]>A guy at the range gave me 10 rnds of Aguila Golden Eagle Rifle Match to shoot one day, had gotten good groups at 100 yards, so the search started for this ammo. Found some and ran a test on it, as posted below.
Aguila makes several types of Golden Eagle, 2 types in the black box. One is Rifle Match and the other Match. Rifle match is $1.00 + change more than Match. This test is rifle match 40 gr lead rn standard velocity. It was purchased for $31.39 a brick or .06 a round excluding shipping. This is the price I’ll use for comparison to other ammo tested in a previous post, linked later on in this thread.
1. At first glance they appeared to be very very lightly lubed (perhaps just residue left from manufacturing).
2. weight sorted – weighed a brick out, main weight range was between 50.4 grains and 51.1. 24 rounds were below 50.4 and 9 above 51.1.
The ammo was shot through a Savage MKII, from a bench with a Harris bipod and rear bag. A Simmons 6-24x scope is mounted on the rifle, with a 20 moa base. I had left the barrel dirty and unswabbed for this test. 85 deg. F was the air temp, sunny, could only guess humidty may have been between 45 – 55% and a 2:00 to 5:00 less than 3mph wind, gusts to 5mph. shot 5rounds of each weight at 50 and 100 yards (getting too close to dark to do 200 yards). Each weight was cronographed at 10 feet from muzzle. The group sizes, flyers and avg. fps and the amount of rounds per brick are noted for each weight. Any shots that I knew that I pulled, I reshot the whole group again to confirm it was a pull and not a flyer.
50 yards / 1” dot
50.4 +1” / 1.25” w 1 flyer 1025fps, 14 rnds in brick
50.5 +.75” / 0 flyer 1033 fps 60 rnds in brick
50.6 -.75” / 0 flyer 1035 fps 65 rnds in brick
50.7 -.75” / 0 flyer 1033 fps 68 rnds in brick
50.8 -.75” / 0 flyer 1034 fps 78 rnds in brick
50.9 .75” / +1” w 1 flyer 1047 fps 77 rnds in brick ( the one flyer was cronied at 1067)
51.0 .5” / -1” w 1 flyer 1044 fps 67 rnds in brick
51.1 -.75” / -1.5” w 1 flyer 1049 fps 38 rnds in brick
51.2 and above only 9 rnds in brick, used for foulers, sighters, etc.
50 YARD COMMENTS: .25” lower and right POI than SK Match and Rem. Subsonics at 50. Just ever so slightly behind the SK groups at 50, but half the price can live with an 1/8” difference. Seemed that as a whole, 50.6 through 50.9 produced the most consistant groups and fps; as a “weight lot” 50.6 thru 50.9 = 20 rounds with .75” groups or less with 1 flyer just 1” (that flyer cronied at 1067). Avg fps of 1037. The most rounds in the brick belonged to this “weight lot”also. Most of the “flyers” were only .25” or less away from the main group could have been shooter error, and possibly close enough not to call them flyers at all, but I called them flyers anyway.
100 yards / 1.5” dot
50.4 no data - ran out of this weight
50.5 1.5” / 2.25” 2flyers
50.6 -.75”/ 1.5” 1 flyer (2nd most accurate / consistant)
50.7 1.25”/ 0 flyers (most accurate / consistant)
50.8 -1.25”/ 0 flyers (3rd accurate / consistant)
50.9 1” / -1.5” 1 flyer (4th most accurate / consistant)
51.0 1.5” / 2” 1 flyer
51.1 +1.5” / 2” 2 flyers
100 YARD COMMENTS: .5” lower and right POI than SK match, 8.3” drop from 50 yards (same as SK Match), MUCH, MUCH, better than Rem. Subsonics for the same price as the sub sonics. Once again, weights 50.6 thru 50.9 produced the most consistant groups at 100, as they did at 50. As a “weight lot” 50.6 thru 50.9 = 20 rounds with 1.25” or less groups with 2 flyers that opened it to 1.5”.
200 yards / 1.5” dot NO DATA YET, starting to get dark.
OVERALL COMMENTS: leaves a clumpy residue in barrel, outperformed rem subsonics (my practice cheap ammo) at 50 and 100, weights 50.6 thru 50.9 appears to be the “sweet spot” in the manufacturing with 50.7 being the most consistant at 50 and 100. 120 rounds were fired, NO misfires, NO misfeeds, NO ejection problems, NO problems occurred.
Lubed an additional 20 rounds of 50.6 thru 50.9, all groups at 100 where under 1.75” including flyers.
Simply put, the Aguila Match Rifle for the most part outperformed everything else (20-25 brands / styles tested recently) at 50 and 100 at the price paid $.06 a round. When superimposing the targets on the TQ4 I used for the August rimfire match, all groups where within the 9 and 10 ring.
Out of a 30 round “superimposed simulated tq4 100 yd bench” match, the score would be 288-9x’s (6shots in 9 ring, 24 shots being in the 10).
The August match I shot with SK at prone and not bench scored 295-10x’s (5 shots in 9ring, 25 shots being in the 10).
I believe the SK Match is slightly better, by .25” at 100 yards. But the difference is SO SLIGHT, and at more than half the price, I’ll fill my ammo can with the Aguila Rifle Match, at least for 50 and 100 yards. I’m going to definitely replace the Rem Subsonics with the Aguila, and most likely the SK depending on 200 yard performance. A future report coming for 200 yards if you guys want it.
3 bricks of SK Match @6.50 a box = $195 + 3 bricks of Rem. Subsonics @ 3.17 a box $95.10 = $290.10
6 bricks of Aguila Rifle Match @ 3.14 a box = $188.00, a $102.10 difference with no readjusting optics!
If you practice with what you shoot for matches, 6 bricks of SK = $390, a $202.00 difference.
So I can compare oranges to oranges, I’ll see how Aguila fits into an “ammo test thru a MKII” posted awhile back.
once a clean bore test is done, which will give me a clean bore rating (CBR), value rating (VR), consistantcy rating (CR), and overall rating (OAR), and a multiyard rating (MYR). Will edit post when done, however if weight sorted I belive the Aguila will perform and place better in the test.
50 yds - #1. Aguila Golden Eagle Match-1035 fps - avg. grp. .75", c. barrel +.5"MG, +.75"EG, 1/5 FL, d. barrel +.25"MG, +.5"EG, 1/10 FL CBR .75, DBR .58, CR .66, VR .58, FR 2/15 OAR .52 $.06, VERY good results for the price! leaves a clumpy residue, most shots where touching or in each other at 50 yds. slightly more flyers than the wolf, but flyers were not extreme (1/8" to 1/4" away)likes a dirty barrel better than clean.
100 yds - #4. Aguila Golden Eagle Match - avg. grp. 1.75", c. barrel 1.75"MG, +1.75"EG, 2/5 FL d. barrel 1.25"MG, 1.5"EG, 1/10 FL CBR 1.83, DBR 1.25, CR 1.54, VR 1.33, FR 3/15, OAR 1.49 $.06, excellent ammo for the price, half or more of wolf and sk, fell just short of wolf / sk and federal on consistancy, but for the price will live with it. Definately the best value rating, and third in OAR. Likes a dirty barrel. Leaves a clumpy residue. 8.3" drop. great practice ammo, not too bad of a match ammo, an all around dual purpose economical ammo.
Multi yard (average of 50 and 100) #3. Aguila Golden Eagle Match- MYR/CBR 1.29, MYR/DBR .915, MYR/CR 1.10, MRY/VR .955, MYR/FR 5/30, MYR/OAR 1.00, avg. MYR grp 1.13" (the suprisingly small groups shot at 50 yds and the price of the ammo helped it to reach 3rd in the multi yard rankings. the wolf was a bit more consistant on average at both ranges).
(in all fairness to the other ammo, the aguila was weighed and the most accurate lot was shot: 50.6 thru 50.9. it wasn't until after the original test of ammo thru a mkii that i realized the importance of weight sorting. however at $.06 a round, the time spent weighing may justify it's placement).
I’ll use the 50.6 thru 50.9 for paper and the over / unders for practice and silhouette shooting as the 1/8” to .25” difference is less of a concern. looks that i found what works for me as a low priced round for practice, yet accurate, consistant, and dependable enough to do serious shooting, at least the ones weighing 50.6 thru 50.9. ]]>
then i added the lube. i used carnuba wax, alox bullet lube, crayon, and bowstring beeswax.
finally got out to test it. shooting conditions: 72 deg. low humidity, occasional less than 3mph breeze from 6:00. sunny. PERFECT! mark II bull barrel, harris bipod, rear bag, 1.5" bullseye at 100 yards. i cleaned the barrel after a lube change, and waited 30 seconds between shots. i also used a chrony to make sure that the flyers where just that and not me pulling a shot. vertical tracking came into play and made a noticable difference.
i'm convinced that i will be lubing the bullets on cheap 22 ammo as the results seem to show an improvement:
UNLUBED(base / control data) 979 fps - excluding 3 noticable flyers it gave me a major group of 3". including 1 of the closer flyers gave an extended group of just under 3.25". all 15 shots were in a 4.5" group. the most dense part of the group measured 2.75"h x 2.5"w comment: (in my mind and paper, the weighing is worth it!) 6 shots within 1.5" bullet drop was averaged between 8" to 10"
CARNUBA WAX - 998 avg fps - excluding 3 noticable flyers it gave me a major group under 2.5". including 1 of the closer flyers gave an extended group of 2.75". all 15 shots, under a 4" group. the most dense part of the group measured 2.5"h x 2.5"w comment: left a drier coating than the rest 7 shots within 1.5"
ALOX BULLET LUBE - 989 avg fps - excluding 3 noticable flyers it gave me a major group under 2.25". including 1 of the closest flyers gave an extended group of just over 2.25". 15 shots were just over 3.75" group.
the most dense part of the group measured under 2"h x 1.5"w comments: seemed to make barrel easier to clean, good stable texture, easy to apply. 10 shots in 1.5"
CRAYON - 1006 avg fps - excluding 4 noticable flyers it gave me a major group of 2.25". including 1 of the closest flyers gave an extended group of 3". 15 shots were just less than 4.25". most dense part of the group measured 2.25"h x 1.75"w. comments: tended to flake off, hard to control application compared to the others, seemed to cause a feeding problem. 7 shots in 1.5"
BOWSTRING BEESWAX - 991 avg fps - excluding 4 flyers it gave me a major group of 2". including 1 of the closest flyers gave an extended group of under 2.25". 15 shots were less than 4". most dense part of the group measured under 2"h x 1.5" w. comments: good stable texture to apply. 9 shots in 1.5"
CONCLUSION: there is something to adding the lube. it did have a noticable effect on group size and increased the fps. if having to rate the lubes applied as far as most predictable, ease of application, and highest % of hits on a 1.5" bull at 100 yards, it's practically a tie between the alox and beeswax, with the alox just nudging out the beeswax.
unlubed bullet drop was averaged between 8" to 10.25" / lubed between 8.25" and 9.75"
by far weighing and lubing the cheaper stuff is not going to take the place of match ammo. but as far as using a lower priced substitute and taking a little time to tweek it seems to be worth spending an hour or so to do a couple hundred. may try some other lubes in the future (parrafin, moly, rooster jacket, apache blue, tallow wax, etc.)
i also concluded i have way too much time on my hands......
tried a few more lubes today. as in the original post, i used remington subsonics which group (or lack of one) horribly out of my mkii at 100, decent at 50 though.
after weight sorting and shooting dry got around a 4.5" group just as in the original test.
then applied the lubes:
gun stock wax - by birchwood i believe, was expecting alot as the ingredients said it contains carnuba, silicone, and beeswax.
let down though, seemed to make groups WORSE.
crossbow rail lube - showed an improvement to around 3.25" with 10 shots being within 2"
moly (spray on hoppes no.9) i wanted to do the moly powder used for tumbling my centerfire bullets and mix with bees wax as in a previous suggestion. on the way to the range i stopped at the local gunstore, there was the moly staring me in the face, so i took it as a sign and bought it. glad i did as it came very close to, or surpassing, on what the alox bullet lube application did to the ammo. brought the major group to 1.75" (12 rounds) with three flyers that opened it up to 2.5".
don't forget this is out of ammo that was so erratic that i couldn't get a measurable grouping straight from the box! yes the weight sorting brought it in closer, but the lubes generally did the trick.
as far as ease of application, standing up to handling the ammo, and groups so far i would have to rank what i've tried up to date as:
1. alox bullet lube - easy to apply, not much residue to interfere with magazines, etc. stays on bullets well. not as good groups as the bowstring wax, but the bowstring wax seemed to "clog up the works" less.
2. bowstring wax - seemed to give the best groups but gummed up the bolt abit as it stripped of the next round.
3. the moly spray - seemed to add the most consistancy, and ease to clean the barrel. easy to apply, but messy. no opinion on the adhesion to bullet as i didn't have time to prep (wipe clean) the bullet with acetone or alcohol. obviously the price is going to be a factor, which if i assume a spray can at 10.00 will last 500 rounds (overspray is eating it up)you can tack on another .02 a shot. depending on what your adding it to, it may exceed any savings on the cheaper ammo and you may as well "just get the match ammo"
4. crossbow rail lube - helped keep groups to about 3"
5. crayon - yes crayon, worked well but keeping it from flaking off was a problem
6. also tried silicone spray, pam high temp cooking spray, reloading case lube, gun stock wax, militec, none of which made any substaintial difference and in some cases made groups worse. plus the lubes tended to stay "wet"
best results as far as groups, 1. moly, 2. bowstring wax (beeswax), 3. alox
carnuba wax and crayon seemed about tied
i'm hoping to try parrafin wax, white lithium, or god knows what else. with hunting season upon me, range time will be reduced greatly.
thanks for the suggestions and just for reading my little experiment, hope it helps someone. ]]>
when shooting through a chrony, that's really where the proof is in the pudding, recently did an ammo test on aguila golden eagle ammo on another site that shows the average fps of the different weights, however the post doesn't show that when a "flyer" accurred, either the fps spiked either on the high or low side.
that led me to believe that weighing them doesn't weed ALL of the lower or higher fps rounds that caused the flyers, but it DID weed out MOST of them.
the fps range on that particular test was low 1020's to 1068, which the really different fps showed up on paper.
so you are on the right track weighing ammo, i can't seem to remember what the best wolf weight was out of my rifle, however i do remember that the range of wieght was substantially lower than many other brands which i also believe leads to why wolf is accurate.
weighing, lubing, and lotting cheaper ammo really makes it perform better, or at least more consistant.
i just use a digital grain scale. ]]>
I’m using 50 yards as a starting pooint as most folks shoot at that distance, and because it’s a good starting zero.
Set up used: firearm : Savage mkII 20" free floated bull barrel 1-16 twist, 1lb. trigger, lam. Stock, 20 moa base., scope on 20x, 50 yd zero. Less than 3 mph wind, shot at 1" circle. From harris bipod and rear bag from bench, crony at 10 ft. from muzzle. 26degree (f) avg air temp. shot at 50 and 100 yards. Ammo tested was readily available and $ paid locally, sub or near sub sonic match/target type. Barrel dry swabbed b-4 each group, clean barrel groups b-4 each shot. 30 seconds between each shot. B.C.'s not found on each, range between .114 to .144 (g-1 g-7) drag models.
How groups were measured - MG = major grp (excluding flyers) EG = ext. grp (including flyers), Flyer Ratio FR = #of flyers per rnds. shot. Did it with clean and dirty barrel groups.
Came up with rating system to suit ammo with different shooting styles. Took (5 shots) Clean Barrel Rating "CBR"=MG+EG+flyers divided by 3. Dirty Barrel Rating (10 shots) "DBR"= MG+EG+flyers divided by 3, Consistency Rating "CR"= MG+EG+flyers of CBR and DBR divided by 6, Value Rating "VR" (bang for the $) adds price per round divided by 7, and overall rating "OAR"=CBR+DBR+CR+VR divided by 4. Also came up with a multi yard rating, avg. performance at both distances. The lower the number, the better rating.
1. Aguila Golden Eagle Match-1035 fps - avg. grp. .75", c. barrel +.5"MG, +.75"EG, 1/5 FL, d. barrel +.25"MG, +.5"EG, 1/10 FL CBR .75, DBR .58, CR .66, VR .58, FR 2/15 OAR .52 $.06, VERY good results for the price! leaves a clumpy residue, most shots where touching or in each other at 50 yds. slightly more flyers than the wolf, but flyers were not extreme (1/8" to 1/4" away)likes a dirty barrel better than clean.
2. Wolf Match Extra-1024 FPS 14 Dev. - avg. grp -1.25", c. barrel ..75"MG, 1"EG, 0/5 FR d. barrel -.75"MG, -1.25"EG, 1/10 FR
CBR .5, DBR 1, CR .75, VR .67, FR 1/15, OAR .730 $.20, pricey, dirty residue, low # flyers, 1 made it -1.25"
3. Wolf Match Target- 943 FPS 24 Dev. - avg. grp 1", c. barrel -.75MG, 1"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel -1"MG, -1"EG, 0/10 FR
CBR .91, DBR .6, CR .79, VR .69, FR 1/15, OAR .749 $.14, dirty residue, low # flyers
4. Rem./Eley T Rifle - 1021 FPS 24Dev. - avg. grp -1", c. barrel -.5"MG, -1"EG, 2/5 FR d. barrel -.75"MG, -1"EG 1/10 FR
CBR 1.16, DBR .91, CR 1.04, VR .92, FR 3/15, OAR 1.01 $.20, semi dirty residue, flyers killed it, highly lubricated
5. Rem. Sub Sonic- 947 FPS 46 Dev. - avg. grp 1.25", c. barrel .5"MG, 1"EG, 2/5 FR d. barrel .75"MG, 1.25"EG, 1/10 FR
CBR 1.16, DBR 1, CR 1.08, VR .94, FR 3/15, OAR 1.04 $.08, dirty residue, good groups for price. 38gr h. point
6. Federal G Medal -1059 FPS 18 Dev. - avg. grp 1.5", c. barrel +.5"MG, 1.5"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel -1"MG, +1"EG, 1/10 FR
CBR 1, DBR 1, CR 1, VR .87, FR 2/15, OAR .968 $.10, clean shooting, nice flyer ratio, a decent neutral ammo, no complaints
7. CCI Green Tag - 988 FPS 31 Dev. - avg. grp -1.5", c. barrel -.75"MG, 1"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel 1" MG, 1.5"EG, 1/10 FR
CBR .91, DBR 1.16, CR 1.04, VR .91, FR 2/15, OAR 1.07 $.14, semi clean, price held it back compared to above. 2 far out flyers.
8. Rem. Tar. 22 s. vel. - 1086 FPS 66 Dev. - avg. grp 1.5", c. barrel -.75"MG, 1"EG, 2/5 FR d. barrel 1.25"MG, 1.5"EG, 1/10 FR
CBR 1.25, DBR 1.25, CR 1.25, VR 1.08, FR 3/15, OAR 1.20 $.08, clean shooting, not too good out of dirty barrel
9. Winc. S.X. T-22- 1056 FPS 50 Dev. - avg. grp. 1.75", c. barrel -.75"MG, 1.5"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel -1"MG, 1.75"EG, 2/10 FR
CBR 1.08, DBR 1.5, CR 1.29, VR 1.11, FR 3/15, OAR 1.24 $.06, semi clean, decent economical ammo in c. barrel. Flyers killed grps.
(in all fairness to the other ammo, the aguila was weighed and the most accurate lot was shot (50.6 thru 50.9)
Of the Rem. s.s., Fed. G.medal, and CCI g.t., at 50 yards very comparable, ranked the Rem's higher due to lower price. Point of impact POI perspective, Fed, Rem/Eley, CCI Wolf t.e. and targ. had close POI's. Winc. T-22 POI was completely on the other side of the bull. All of the ammo dropped between .25" and 1.5" from a 25 yard zero. Aguila Match was outstanding at 50yds, especially for the price, and would actually shoot important matches with it at 50.
ON TO PART 2 100 YARDS
PART 2 - 22 AMMO THRU MKII 100 YARDS
Set up used: firearm : Savage mkII 20" free floated bull barrel 1-16 twist, 1lb. trigger, lam. Stock, 20 moa base., scope on 20x, 50 yd zero. Less than 3 mph wind, shot at 1" circle. From harris bipod and rear bag from bench, crony at 10 ft. from muzzle. 26degree (f) avg air temp. shot at 50 and 100 yards. Ammo tested was readily available and $ paid locally, sub or near sub sonic match/target type. Barrel dry swabbed b-4 each group, clean barrel groups b-4 each shot. 30 seconds between each shot. B.C.'s not found on each, range between .114 to .144 (g-1 g-7) drag models.
How groups were measured - MG = major grp (excluding flyers) EG = ext. grp (including flyers), Flyer Ratio FR = #of flyers per rnds. shot. Did it with clean and dirty barrel groups.
Came up with own rating system suit ammo with different shooting styles. Took (5 shots) Clean Barrel Rating "CBR"=MG+EG+flyers divided by 3. Dirty Barrel Rating (10 shots) "DBR"= MG+EG+flyers divided by 3, Consistency Rating "CR"= MG+EG+flyers of CBR and DBR divided by 6, Value Rating "VR" (bang for the buck) adds price per round divided by 7, and overall rating "OAR"=CBR+DBR+CR+VR divided by 4. Also came up with a multi yard rating, avg. performance at both distances. The lower the number, the better rating.
Some ammo faired well at 50 yds, fizzled at 100 and visa versa. Sometimes price isn't what it's cracked up to be either. FPS were noted in 50 yard test. Also included drop from 50 to 100 yards.
1. Wolf Match Target - avg. grp. -1.75", c. barrel 1"MG, 1.25"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel 1"MG, -1.75"EG, 1/10 FR CBR 1.08, DBR 1.25, CR 1.16, VR 1.02, FR 2/15, OAR 1.19 $.14, just bet the pricier Extra, tight groups, low flyers. Shot almost equally out of d or c barrels. 11.5" drop.
2. Wolf Match Extra - avg. grp. -2", c. barrel 1.25"MG, 1.75"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel 1.5"MG, -2"EG, 1/10 FR CBR 1.33, DBR 1.5, CR 1.42, VR 1.24, FR 2/15, OAR 1.37 $.20, lost some performance at 100, but still very good. Pricier than #1. 10.75" drop.
3. Federal Gold Match - avg. grp. 1.75", c. barrel .75"MG, 1.75"EG, 2/5 FL d. barrel .75"MG, 1.75"EG, 3/10 FR CBR 1.5, DBR 1.83, CR 1.33, VR 1.44, FR 5/15, OAR 1.53 $.10, gained where others slipped, reliable ammo for the price 9.25" drop.
4. Aguila Golden Eagle Match - avg. grp. 1.75", c. barrel 1.75"MG, +1.75"EG, 2/5 FL d. barrel 1.25"MG, 1.5"EG, 1/10 FL CBR 1.83, DBR 1.25, CR 1.54, VR 1.33, FR 3/15, OAR 1.49 $.06, excellent ammo for the price, half or more of wolf and sk, fell just short of wolf / sk and federal on consistancy, but for the price will live with it. Definately the best value rating, and third in OAR. Likes a dirty barrel. Leaves a clumpy residue. 8.3" drop. great practice ammo, not too bad of a match ammo, an all around dual purpose economical ammo.
5. CCI Green Tag - avg. grp. +2.25", c. barrel 1.5"MG, 2"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel 1.75"MG, +2.25"EG, 3/10 FR CBR 1.5, DBR 2.33, CR 1.92, VR 1.66, FR 4/15, OAR 1.85 $.14, stayed steady to 100yds, 1 or 2 flyers opened the group, pricier than fed. 11" drop.
6. Winc. Sup. X t-22 - avg. grp. +2.25" c. barrel 1.5"MG, 2"EG 2/5 FR d. barrel 1.5"MG, +2.25EG, 3/10 FR CBR 1.58, DBR 2.25, CR 1.92, VR 1.67, FR 4/15, OAR 1.86 $.06, not bad considering $, similar to CCI g.t. at more than half the $. 9" drop.
7. Rem./Eley Targ. Rif. - avg. grp. -2.5" c. barrel 1.5"MG, 2" EG, 2/5 FR d. barrel 1.75"MG, -2.5"EG, 3/10 FR CBR 1.83, DBR 1.81, CR 2.13, VR 1.85, FR 5/15, OAR 1.91 $.20, expected much more for the $, reshot and same results. Heavy lube effecting grps? 10" drop
8. Rem. target 22 - avg. grp +3" c. barrel 1"MG, 3"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel 1.5"MG, +2.25EG, 3/10 FR CBR 2, DBR 2.75, CR 2.38, VR 2.05, FR 6/15, OAR 2.29 $.08, 10" drop
9. Rem. Sub Sonic- avg. grp ? groups were so erratic and open (over 4.5") no real data could be collected, took it out of 100 yd running. Big surprise as it performed exceptionally well at 50. $.08. reshot, same results.
(in all fairness to the other ammo, the aguila was weighed and the most accurate lot was shot (50.6 thru 50.9)
Both Wolf ammos similar, slightly different POI, Rem./Eley had similar POI with Rem. targ 22. Winc T-22 was once again left to the bull. Overall rating (OAR) was more inline with avg. grp. size which at 50, didn't match up as well. Price per round at 100 seems you get what you pay for, excepting the Rem./Eley.
This led to me to ask which ammo does best including 50 and 100 yard performance, taking into account a broad spectrum of data over multiple ranges. So....ON TO PART 3 MULTI YARD RATINGS
PART 3 - 22 AMMO THRU MKII MULTI YARD
MULTI YARD RATING (MYR) - Rates ammo on best avg. performance at 50 and 100 yards using data taken and results. MYR/CBR = CBR of 50+100 divided by 2, MYR/DBR = DBR of 50+100 divided by 2, MYR/CR = CR of 50+100 divided by 2, MYR/VR = VR of 50+100 divided by 2, MYR/OAR = THE MYR'S CBR+DBR+CR+VR divided by 4. Flyer Ratios are also for both ranges, 30 rds total each brand. Also took avg. grps. from 50+100 divided by 2 to give an average group between both ranges. The MYR would be extremely valuable for a silhoutte match where various ranges are shot through the match.
1. Wolf MatchTarget-MYR/CBR .995, MYR/DBR .925, MYR/CR .978, MYR/VR ..855, MYR/FR 3/30, MYR/OAR .938, avg. MYR grp -1.5"
2. Wolf Match Extra-MYR/CBR .915, MYR/DBR 1.25, MYR/CR 1.08, MYR/VR ..956, MYR/FR 3/30. MYR/OAR 1.22, avg. MYR grp -1.62"
3. Aguila Golden Eagle Match- MYR/CBR 1.29, MYR/DBR .915, MYR/CR 1.10, MRY/VR .955, MYR/FR 5/30, MYR/OAR 1.00, avg. MYR grp 1.13" (the suprisingly small groups shot at 50 yds and the price of the ammo helped it to reach 3rd in the multi yard rankings. the wolf was a bit more consistant on average at both ranges).
4. Federal G. Match-MYR/CBR 1.25, MYR/DBR 1.42, MYR/CR 1.17, MYR/VR 1.16, MYR/FR 7/30, MYR/OAR 1.25, avg. MYR grp 1.62"
5. Rem/Eley T. Rif.- MYR/CBR 1.5, MYR/DBR 1.36, MYR/CR 1.58, MYR/VR ..925, MYR/FR 8/30, MYR/OAR 1.34, avg. MYR grp -2"
6. CCI Green Tag- MYR/CBR 1.21, MYR/DBR 1.75, MYR/CR 1.48, MYR/VR 1.29, MYR/FR 6/30, MYR/OAR 1.43, avg. MYR grp +1.88"
7. Winc. S.X.T-22-MYR/CBR 1.33, MYR/DBR 1.88, MYR/CR 1.60, MYR/VR 1.39, MYR/FR 7/30, MYR/OAR 1.55, avg. MYR grp +2"
8. Rem. Target- MYR/CBR 1.63, MYR/DBR 2, MYR/CR 1.81, MYR/VR 1.56, MYR/FR 9/30, MYR/OAR 1.75, avg. MYR grp +2.25
9. Rem. Sub Sonic- open and erratic groups at 100 (over 4.5") could not be measured accurately or consistently.
(in all fairness to the other ammo, the aguila was weighed and the most accurate lot was shot (50.6 thru 50.9)
When you look at the different #'s and categories throughout this series, you can judge an ammo that suits your type of shooting (cleaning barrel between shots - CBR and the size of groups), using a dirty barrel or sustained fire (DBR and the size of groups), the price / economy / value of an ammo vs. performance (VR), and how many flyers to expect, using an ammo at just 50, just 100, or both (MYR). Although these ratings are made up by me (as far as I know don't resemble anyone else's, if so I apologize), they do reflect the overall outcome of the ammo based on real world data.
I hope to test others in the future (Aquila, Lapua, etc.) as time, weather, and funds allow, and maybe a high velocity 22 test, but until then, this is what you can expect out of the ammo tested through a MKII.
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